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Post by Amadeus on Feb 17, 2016 15:59:52 GMT
A terrible thing happened at the end of the '70's. Rock music as we knew it, died. Ozzy got fired. Zeppelin crashed. Most of the others and newer rock music groups started processing their hair and wearing fake leather and shoulder pads and drum machines. And Mr. Kite became traumatised and retreated into a world where he could wallow in his own nostalgia. I don't blame him. Apart from Deep Purple's 'Perfect Strangers' comeback and the two Dio/Sabbath albums, the old school rock groups basically foundered in a sea of hair and tank tops.
BUTT,,,,,As I've stated so many times, there was so much more! Travelling in the middle of the road quickly became boring and even distressing so I soon headed for the ditch. There HAD to be more than MTV,CNN, Taco Bell and all were presenting us as culture. There just had to be more than this. And I, and many like me, found it.
The eighties began in 1978 with this song and band. We all decided 'stuff rock music' let's find something new,,,,,
PiL - Public Image
Let's discuss OUR 80's. NOT the 80's as seen on TV.
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Post by Day Tripper on Feb 17, 2016 17:17:48 GMT
The metal (including hair metal) was the best part.
Don't believe me?
Check out the following artists: Megadeth Slayer Metallica Ozzy Osbourne Iron Maiden Judas Priest Testament Exodus Ratt Cinderella Dokken Quiet Riot Twisted Sister Def Leppard Bon Jovi W.A.S.P. Great White
...and so many more!
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Post by pothos on Feb 17, 2016 17:33:22 GMT
Some that meant a lot to me.
The above track used to be especially meaningful as the MW signal would fade in and out. Added a whole new dimension to it.
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Post by Amadeus on Feb 17, 2016 20:45:34 GMT
The metal (including hair metal) was the best part. To me, that was the least interesting part of the 80s. It's a part of the 'rock' music I was talking about that was performed by people of indeterminate sex and fake leather. The music itself was just product. Some of those bands are good but here we're talking about anything but rock/metal. As I said, there was so much more. Pothos, I love The Cure.
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Post by Amadeus on Feb 17, 2016 22:48:40 GMT
Let's discuss why these choices are good and what they added to the 80s music scene. I've always loved The Cure. I was only a casual Bauhaus fan but I loved the first 2 Love & Rockets albums.
Pothos, what did the Cure, Bauhaus, Julian Cope et al mean to you? And what was there before that in your life?
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Post by Bongo on Feb 17, 2016 22:57:56 GMT
Loved Scorpions, Maiden, Priest, Ozzy, Dio, Motorhead and any other Metal band that wasn’t hair pop metal. Ok, I did like Def Leppard at one time!!!!!
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Post by pothos on Feb 17, 2016 23:45:10 GMT
As I was in my mid teens I was starting to listen to evening Radio 1 (Jenson/Peel) I don't think I truly understood the significance on an intellectual level. I just got it.
My family had no record player/records and apart from their mutual love of Chapel and hymns no connection to music. At 3/4 years old Top of the Pops/ later The Old Grey Whistle Test (at about 7) became a touchstone. So as a very little kid T Rex Slade, Abba and Bowie became my intro into the music scene. I bought records after that from say 6 /7 years old relatives bought me records for Christmas and Birthdays (Gladys Knight and the Pips) aged 9, Dave Edmunds Kate Bush Nick Low ska; reggae; dance I seriously went potty for music and as I had no siblings and no guide all my free time went into listening to music, reading about music and going to shops and going thorough the shelves to find stuff. The Jam and the mod revival punk. Parent watching TOTP's and going bezerk over the state of the bands. Disco soul and with John Peel the likes of Captain Beefheart I was in my early teens was obsessed with it all and still am. I am still hearing new sounds new stuff and I genuinely thought at nearly 50 I would have grown out of this obsession but no still finding new acts to adore.
Some other stuff that was part of my teens.
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Post by Bongo on Feb 18, 2016 14:50:40 GMT
As I was in my mid teens I was starting to listen to evening Radio 1 (Jenson/Peel) I don't think I truly understood the significance on an intellectual level. I just got it. How did the Beatles come into the picture?
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Post by Bongo on Feb 18, 2016 14:56:53 GMT
A terrible thing happened at the end of the '70's. Rock music as we knew it, died. I think you summed it up perfectly Amadeus. I could not get into any of those pop bands of the 80's. Just hated it!
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Post by Amadeus on Feb 18, 2016 15:39:08 GMT
Aside from a few punk bands, in the early 80s I was a confirmed 70s rock guy. Prog, metal etc,,, plus the unusual stuff I grew up listening to. And the new rock with the hair and stuff totally turned me off and in my mind there was nothing left. I was afraid to check out anyone who had short hair and hair that stood up. But I was desperate so I went for it. I discovered so much cool 'short hair' stuff that wasn't top 40 and sickly. I'm sharing a song here and there to show my 80s and I believe it was different from the 80s as 'seen on TV'.
REM - Begin the Begin
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Post by pothos on Feb 18, 2016 16:18:20 GMT
I connected to the Beatles music the older I got. Like I mentioned no one loved rock and pop and I suspect that if I had had siblings I would have discovered their output earlier.
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Post by Mr Kite on Feb 18, 2016 18:18:38 GMT
I loved Perfect Strangers ! Well it took me about 3 minutes to count how many 80`s bands I saw live These were one of the 4. Though it was the 90`s when I saw them .
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Post by Amadeus on Feb 18, 2016 21:18:30 GMT
In Canada we never had John Peel. But in Toronto we had CFNY 102.1 - The Spirit Of Radio. And for about ten years or so between '78 and '88 we had 'The Import Show' hosted by Ivor Hamilton and sometimes Lee Carter would put in an appearance.
This is where me and my post punk friends would go to hear the latest sounds from Europe, mostly UK groups and we discovered so much neat stuff that just wasn't available over here but it sounded so new and different to the usual and I treasure those days of discovery.
All those bands were so exotic sounding and without the internet, it was a special occasion once a week to hear this extremely rare stuff. Then we would go down to Yonge Street to The Record Peddlar and see if we could score some of these imports.
It's hard to relate the idea or feeling to someone who grew up in the internet age.
Here's one of my 1983 discoveries from the Import Show. From The Netherlands.
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Post by Mr Kite on Feb 18, 2016 22:00:17 GMT
Loved Scorpions, Maiden, Priest, Ozzy, Dio, Motorhead and any other Metal band that wasn’t hair pop metal. Ok, I did like Def Leppard at one time!!!!! Saw Def Leppard . Bobbins If this is an 80`s thread then all those bands are void as they all started in the 70`s . Even Ozzy just scarped in . Scraped is the right word As for D.T`s list it`s no wonder why Zep , The Who ,Rush, Sabbath, AC/Dc are still highly regarded today as essential Rock bands to listen too. Just my opinion of course
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Post by pothos on Feb 18, 2016 23:04:30 GMT
For me if we are talking about rock bands of the 1970's and then compare them to the 1980's the 70's groups still had their roots in the blues and funk.
80's bands for me sounded metal and even in some cases pop.
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Post by pothos on Feb 18, 2016 23:09:26 GMT
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Post by Amadeus on Feb 19, 2016 13:36:52 GMT
I love all that stuff. I only have the first two Felt albums. So Robin Guthrie got a hold of them too?
One of the greatest guitar bands of the 80s. This was way more heavy than all those MTV metal bands. Sonic Youth from 1985. (1991 performance)
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Post by pothos on Feb 19, 2016 23:47:25 GMT
Well that Flue track is totally new to me and it is years since I heard of Love and Rockets. Weren't they Scottish.
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Post by Amadeus on Feb 20, 2016 0:03:52 GMT
Well that Flue track is totally new to me and it is years since I heard of Love and Rockets. Weren't they Scottish. 1. REALLY? Being Dutch, and it's not a big country, I naturally assumed you might have come across them. 2. Love & Rockets are English. They're Bauhaus without Peter Murphy. The first song I heard of Human League was Empire State Human. And Reproduction (1979) was the first album I got to know. Most people forget they were an all boys group with questionable commercial appeal. I just loved Phil Oaky's hairstyle. One side is long, the other short! My 12 year old mind was blown. You can't go wrong with that haircut!
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Post by pothos on Feb 20, 2016 11:19:11 GMT
The Human League were unusual I loved both versions of the band. OMD and Simple Minds in their early forms were fascinating as well.
First time Fat Boy Slim pops up in the UK business (Bass Player)
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