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Post by carolbscotland on Aug 30, 2012 16:10:25 GMT
The Tearaways might not play the Beatles in all their shows however they still play fantastic music, is that not what we are there to hear? There are plenty of regular bands who do 100% Beatles so there is enough to keep everyone happy. Im a Beatles fan first and foremost, however even i need a bit of a break now and then and im so glad there are bands who do a wider range. Tearaways, The sutcliffes, johnny and the moondogs, the overtures, the shakers, these bands all provided a wide range. Of all the BW bands the Tearaways always have one of the biggest crowds.
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monty
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Post by monty on Aug 30, 2012 16:18:03 GMT
Well, I just think it's ironic that one of the bands that pull the biggest crowds at a Beatle convention doesn't even play Beatles music.
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Post by nagai on Aug 30, 2012 17:32:15 GMT
They must be doing something right then? One of the reasons that I enjoyed 'The Liverpool Band' was the fact that they put a bit of a spin on the songs that we all know and love. It's the same with Gleison Tulio, it's good to hear different interpretations of songs, whether you like them or not. It's pretty much impossible to improve on the originals, so to hear something very different can be exciting.
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Post by The Sun King on Aug 30, 2012 22:35:58 GMT
The tearaways are a fab band ,cool & plenty of attitude. All some of us our saying cater for Beatles fans who only come to Convention Sunday like my wife ,who only want to hear the Beatles/solo etc. They can play want they want for the rest of Beatle week
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Post by mrmustard on Aug 30, 2012 22:40:15 GMT
I use to think the Tearaways had a point in being at Beatleweek. They did related Beatles songs like Bad Finger, Jackie Lomax etc and I get that. However they now feel they can come over here with their shades, American accents and play whatever they like now. I mean what was that country song they played on convention night? It was dire!
However, I reserve special attention for The Overtures (sorry Al!). These jokers have been taking the piss for years! They nonce up to Liverpool playing their generic 60's songs at International Beatleweek. Who the hell do they think they are! Weddings, birthdays and hotels in Dubai is all they're good for!
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Post by The Sun King on Aug 30, 2012 22:44:48 GMT
Yes mrmustard they lost a third of their crowd after that country debacle.
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Post by mrmustard on Aug 30, 2012 22:57:48 GMT
As I've said, one of the highlights of Beatleweek where the interviews on convention day. In particular the Andy Peebles interview. The emotionally charged atmosphere was something I have never witnessed during an interview before.....then the door opens and the band in the next room blasts through. And again, and again. I don't blame the band or the people walking through. It's the only way through to the other part of the hotel if you don't know the little short cut around the ballroom. I blame the complete ineptness of Cavern City Tours for locating the interviews in the ballroom in the first place. It doesn't take a mastermind to realise it should be on the 'quiet side' of the market area as you look to the front of the hotel.
I found it completely disrespectful to the calibre of the guests they invited (apart from Iris Caldwell).
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Post by The Sun King on Aug 31, 2012 6:46:10 GMT
mrmustard I think your a wee bit harsh with your comments regarding Iris Caldwell . Ye she romances about the past but she was there & rumoured to have dated George & Paul at some stage.It has been said that Paul wrote "I saw her standing there" about Iris after seeing dance the twist in Blackpool Ballroom. So it was nice to hear a ordinary local girl have her say.Oh and she was married Shane Fenton (Alvin Stardust )
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Post by mrmustard on Aug 31, 2012 9:34:45 GMT
mrmustard I think your a wee bit harsh with your comments regarding Iris Caldwell . Ye she romances about the past but she was there & rumoured to have dated George & Paul at some stage.It has been said that Paul wrote "I saw her standing there" about Iris after seeing dance the twist in Blackpool Ballroom. So it was nice to hear a ordinary local girl have her say.Oh and she was married Shane Fenton (Alvin Stardust ) I have no problem with the credentials of Iris Caldwell being interviewed The Sun King. However her take on the sacking of Pete Best and his drumming skills was just utter nonsense. I could have let that one go as there are so many people who where around at that time in Liverpool that are still around today that say the same thing. But as Mark Lewisohn accurately pointed out in his interview, what the Beatles played then was mainly four to the floor rock and roll. The requirements for The Beatles recorded works are definitely something Pete couldn't have provided. Just to digress slightly to the looks issue as reason for the sacking. What's obvious is that Pete had the same hair style as lots of other people had had for years. The Beatles chose to move away from that to something new and unconventional. I honestly think it was that radical at the time that Liverpool girls didn't take to it and preferred the 'James Dean' look of Pete which is what they knew; that American 50's film star look (I realise like I sound like a male chauvanist pig here!). And again, as Lewisohn excellently pointed out, there was no way on this earth that Brian Epstein was going to tell John Lennon that Pete had to go because he was too good looking! So I could, perhaps, have forgiven all that. However what I couldn't forgive is the shameless onstage flogging of a CD on stage with the promotion that centred around the fact that 'Ringo might be playing drums'. It was totally unnecessary and crass. Surely it was enough just to promote the fact that Rory Storm was on it. It clearly angered Lewisohn. He comes across as a gentleman all the time so for him to totally berate Iris Caldwell after he had only just interviewed her he must have been absolutely seething! Lewisohn went on to meticulously explain how it was impossible for Ringo to be playing on the CD. I think if there was any shadow of a doubt he wouldn't have mentioned it or would not have said it the way he did. I know who I believe anyway.
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Post by nagai on Aug 31, 2012 13:34:46 GMT
Good points well made, mrmustard.
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Post by philoverture on Aug 31, 2012 21:39:15 GMT
@ mrmustard The reason my band (The Overtures) play Beatle Week every year is due to public demand. We could choose to play a whole set of Beatles tunes if we wished but that is not why we're asked to perform. We're specifically asked to provide a little relief from all The Beatles music that is being played. We certainly don't do it as a personal vendetta against you and if you don't like what we do then maybe you should keep away? Being as you're one of the administrators I don't expect my post to be avialable for long. Anyway must go as I have to nonce up to a wedding in Dubai...
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Post by mrmustard on Aug 31, 2012 21:57:39 GMT
@ mrmustard The reason my band (The Overtures) play Beatle Week every year is due to public demand. We could choose to play a whole set of Beatles tunes if we wished but that is not why we're asked to perform. We're specifically asked to provide a little relief from all The Beatles music that is being played. We certainly don't do it as a personal vendetta against you and if you don't like what we do then maybe you should keep away? Being as you're one of the administrators I don't expect my post to be avialable for long. Anyway must go as I have to nonce up to a wedding in Dubai... Hi Phil and welcome to the forum. I would not for one moment even consider removing your post. As far as I am concerned it should stay here for as long as this forum exists as everyone is entitled to an opinion. Particularly about the bands they choose to pay money to see. The Overtures are a great band musically. Always have been. Before you joined the band I saw them perform the Revolver album in it's entirety. It was amazing. I just have an issue with any band playing at Beatleweek not performing Beatle or Beatle related songs. It's nothing personal Phil it's just an opinion I have(and others have) as a Beatleweek goer. However, clearly I(we) am(are) in the minority so it's not really important as the Overtures bring a lot of enjoyment to many and that's great. At the level you play I would have thought some criticism based on where you play and definitely not how you play would not cause you any concern. But there you go.
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Post by philoverture on Aug 31, 2012 22:26:31 GMT
Criticism we can certainly take but phrases such as 'these jokers have been taking the piss for years' and 'birthdays and hotels in Dubai is all they're good for' I find offensive. I understand your point of view completely but maybe a less offensive approach would be better next time.
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Post by mrmustard on Aug 31, 2012 22:41:31 GMT
Criticism we can certainly take but phrases such as 'these jokers have been taking the piss for years' and 'birthdays and hotels in Dubai is all they're good for' I find offensive. I understand your point of view completely but maybe a less offensive approach would be better next time. Clearly the sentiment of the phrases are lost on you, which is understandable as it's the first time you have read them. It's a rant I have after every Beatle week aimed at certain forum members who say the Overtures where their favourite band over the week. It's not aimed at you or the Overtures whom, as I have said, I believe to be a really good band but not for me during Beatle week.
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Post by The End on Aug 31, 2012 23:17:59 GMT
Criticism we can certainly take but phrases such as 'these jokers have been taking the piss for years' and 'birthdays and hotels in Dubai is all they're good for' I find offensive. I understand your point of view completely but maybe a less offensive approach would be better next time. To be fair, I think those comments were meant as a tongue-in-cheek wind up for me (hence the "sorry AL" comment) - Si knows full well that the Overtures have been a favourite of mine for many, many years, hence the reason I booked you guys for my 40th birthday party, which explains Si's other dig at me - LOL! (although, you weren't actually in attendance that night, Phil as you were having a baby!). Anyway, just to say, there has and never will be any censorship of comments here - we're a friendly bunch but as a lot of us are friends in real life we do tend to speak in such terms sometimes. We would never deliberately intend to cause offence. AL
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Post by carolbscotland on Sept 1, 2012 10:52:03 GMT
I can see Phils point. How can you say 'these jokers have been taking the piss for years' then go on to say it wasnt personal, then say it wasnt aimed at the Overtures? So who is it aimed at? The Overtures have long been a favourite at BW, and hopefuly will continue to be. Your opinion is yours, the other thousands of people who go dont need you to speak for us.
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Post by mrmustard on Sept 1, 2012 10:58:15 GMT
I can see Phils point. How can you say 'these jokers have been taking the piss for years' then go on to say it wasnt personal, then say it wasnt aimed at the Overtures? So who is it aimed at? The Overtures have long been a favourite at BW, and hopefuly will continue to be. Your opinion is yours, the other thousands of people who go dont need you to speak for us. Believe me CarolB, I speak only for myself, not the forum and definitely not for you. Everyone has their voice, own opinion and freedom of speech. Clearly if that opinion deviates from some people's opinion then it becomes an issue. That's why I choose to live in a democratic society rather than a communist state.
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Post by The Sun King on Sept 1, 2012 11:43:49 GMT
The Overtures are a fab band & have been missed on convention day Sunday at the Adelphi for several years now. I agree with mrmustard on how great they were doing the Revolver album. Like TheEnd said his comments are tongue in cheek. He's entitled to a rant just like the rest of us ,there's never anything personal with mrmustard.
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Post by beatlesandbeyond on Sept 1, 2012 13:27:13 GMT
Re The Tearaways.... I've spent quite some time talking to the various members over the years. Greg always thanks me for playing them on my show and John took his time to send me their new songs a few weeks ago. They LOVE music and LOVE to play in Liverpool and must be an organisors dream for various reasons. Jesse told me that they sometimes play to small audiences and that the music scene here is better than in California, which really surprised me. They once played to only 3, but one of the 'crowd' got them involved with Tom Hanks. They like to play a good mix of stuff, probably to please a wider audience. The 'shades', well, most Cali peeps wear them a lot and if you've been there you'll know why. I think that they're a great asset to the whole scene
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Post by monty on Sept 1, 2012 18:28:04 GMT
No. They're showing off. If they discarded the shades, threw away the gum, and get down to what it's really about- Beatles music. Then I'd watch them. All power to everyone that enjoys their shows. I'm glad you've had a good time but they're not for me. I dont like posers. It's a shame, because with their musical skill, they could do some really good Beatles covers.
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