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Post by The End on Feb 27, 2008 12:15:28 GMT
What in your opinion was the most important event or year in The Beatles' development? Maybe their appearance on Ed Sullivan? Their trip to Hamburg? Sgt Pepper?
What do you think?
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alexis
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Post by alexis on Feb 27, 2008 15:59:18 GMT
What in your opinion was the most important event or year in The Beatles' development? Maybe their appearance on Ed Sullivan? Their trip to Hamburg? Sgt Pepper? What do you think? Too hard!! 1960 - Chosen for the Johnny Gentle tour. 1961 - Paul picks up bass, 1st Hamburg trip. 1962 - Meet Brian Epstein, meet George Martin, record Love Me Do. 1964 - Ed Sullivan, AHDN. They were pretty much set by then!
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Mrs K
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Post by Mrs K on Feb 27, 2008 16:02:24 GMT
The Johnny Gentle Tour was a mess and brought them nothing. The first trip to Hamburg on the other hand really made The Beatles into a powerhouse. Listen to those awful demo's from early 1960. The band sounds like shit. At the end of the year The Beatles were Liverpools best band without a doubt. So, for me, the first Hamburg trip was the main thing in their development. There's been other essential points of course: meeting Epstein and Martin for instance. But musically, I'd say Hamburg. Which was in 1960 by the way, alexis.
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Post by alexis on Feb 27, 2008 16:15:46 GMT
The Johnny Gentle Tour was a mess and brought them nothing. The first trip to Hamburg on the other hand really made The Beatles into a powerhouse. Listen to those awful demo's from early 1960. The band sounds like shit. At the end of the year The Beatles were Liverpools best band without a doubt. So, for me, the first Hamburg trip was the main thing in their development. There's been other essential points of course: meeting Epstein and Martin for instance. But musically, I'd say Hamburg. Which was in 1960 by the way, alexis. With all respect, I'd say that any extended tour outside of the hometown, especially the first, would be very important. I don't know if it brought them nothing as you say (but did it maybe keep them on the list that eventually would get them to Hamburg?), but it could not but help them to solidify as a band - to know each other better, personally and musically. Huge investment/payoff down the road, even if not much tangible immediately thereafter, IMHO. Thanks for the correction on Hamburg #1 in 1960. If that is a picture of you in your avatar, I will stand corrected with pleasure, Mrs. K!
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eppy
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Post by eppy on Feb 27, 2008 19:47:42 GMT
Its got to be meeting Brian Epstien, for all his faults mainly in hindsight he was perfect for the group, without him we can't really tell what would have happened, their might not have been Merseybeat as we know it now.
As a group meeting George Martin has a pivicol moment in the groups career, his knowledge led to what the group wanted airplay and a mass audience.
Paul meeting John at the very beginning, the found love of writing music, the friendly rivary, the song writing is what made them stand out as a group from the norm.
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Post by Bobber on Feb 27, 2008 20:41:52 GMT
John meeting Paul and vice versa was of course important in forming The Beatles in the first place, but it was not essential in my opinion. I mean, not essential for them to become worldfamous. They were together for a couple of years and nothing earthshattering happened. If they had not gone to Hamburg or met Epstein and Martin, they would have split up without the fame they have until now.
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Post by woodbine on Apr 4, 2008 20:11:30 GMT
The single most important event in their career? With all seriousness, I would have to say it was their "discovery" of marijuana.
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Post by Geoff on Apr 7, 2008 4:25:34 GMT
If not John meeting Paul, then probably going to Hamburg that first time in 1960. Having to play for an audience night after night probably went a long way to making professionals with a good sense of what worked out of them, to say nothing of honing their skills. By the time they got back to Liverpool, they had something, which Brian Epstein and George Martin both recognized.
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