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Post by The End on Oct 31, 2007 12:39:53 GMT
I'd love to hear the original Mitch Murray demo of How Do You Do It - it'll be interesting to see just how much The Beatles added in their version.
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Post by Bobber on Oct 31, 2007 12:56:26 GMT
I've heard stories that Mitch's idea for the song was to play it a lot slower. The Beatles pimped it up and Gerry and the Pacemakers, who went to #1 with the song, seem to have used The Beatles' version of the song. I'm not sure whether there is an official recording by Mitch Murray, or even a demo. I'll try to find it tho.
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Post by The End on Oct 31, 2007 13:23:09 GMT
There is a brief clip of it on the Anthology 1 DVD.
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Post by Bobber on Oct 31, 2007 13:33:13 GMT
Is there? Never noticed that. *off to the Plans For Tonight thread*
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Post by The End on Oct 31, 2007 13:34:41 GMT
Yep!
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BlueMeanie
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Post by BlueMeanie on Oct 31, 2007 13:52:06 GMT
I've heard stories that Mitch's idea for the song was to play it a lot slower. The Beatles pimped it up and Gerry and the Pacemakers, who went to #1 with the song, seem to have used The Beatles' version of the song. I'm not sure whether there is an official recording by Mitch Murray, or even a demo. I'll try to find it tho. I've definitely heard a slower version. Not sure who it was by though. It sounded better, to me.
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Post by The End on Oct 31, 2007 14:12:37 GMT
I'd say The Pacemaker's version was better than The Beatles' - they removed the VERY annoying "ooh, la, la, la" after "you give me a feeling in my heart" and added a very nice piano solo. The Beatles version is weak in comparison, in my opinion.
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Post by BlueMeanie on Oct 31, 2007 14:39:31 GMT
I'd say The Pacemaker's version was better than The Beatles' - they removed the VERY annoying "ooh, la, la, la" after "you give me a feeling in my heart" and added a very nice piano solo. The Beatles version is weak in comparison, in my opinion. I think it's awful. You can clearly hear the contempt in their performance.
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Post by The End on Oct 31, 2007 15:57:05 GMT
Totally agree!
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Post by Bobber on Oct 31, 2007 19:36:57 GMT
I had to watch it on the director's cut, as the original dvd decided not to play tonight! Never mind. There is a snippet alright and it does sound a lot like how the Beatles and Gerry did it. Not much faster or slower and even the arrangement sounded quite similar.
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Post by Bobber on Nov 1, 2007 19:34:32 GMT
Mitch's version is a tough find!
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Post by alexis on Nov 1, 2007 23:53:02 GMT
I guess I'm in the minority here ... I like the Beatle's version, even the ooh-la-las!
What I don't understand though is:
1) They were against releasing "How Do You Do It" because they would be laughed at by their Liverpool crowd (not "Beaty" enough) I have read, but ...
2) They routinely played "Till There Was You" at the Cavern (not the Beatiest of songs, is it?), and ...
3) They released "Ask Me Why" soon thereafter (definitely not Beaty!), and ...
4) They opted for "Love Me Do" instead (scores maybe a 3 on the Beaty scale - 4 of 5 Beatle fans say)!!
The only explanation I can have for "Love Me Do" instead of "How Do You Do It", is that at least LMD was a Lennon-McCartney song.
Anyone have some insight into this? Thanks!
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Post by The End on Nov 2, 2007 0:54:25 GMT
I think you sorta nailed it with your last sentence: "The only explanation I can have for "Love Me Do" instead of "How Do You Do It", is that at least LMD was a Lennon-McCartney song." However, don't forget that How Do You Do It was intended as the follow-up to Love Me Do, therefore we have to compare "How Do You Do It" to "Please Please Me". Right from the start, John and Paul were boasting that they had a catalogue of over 100 self-composed songs to record, which they didn't! However, the boast was already out there, so to record songs written by anyone other than Lennon/McCartney would have been VERY embarrassing! George Martin has said that when he first recorded them their best song up to that point was Love Me Do - so the pressure really was on to come up with something good as a follow up single - their response was Please Please Me, which, after a hell of a lot of input from George Martin, DID become their first number one! Without that self-induced pressure would The Beatles have released How Do You Do It and disappeared into obscurity by 1965?
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Post by Bobber on Nov 2, 2007 8:04:45 GMT
I think the story of How Do You Do It points out why The Beatles grew up to be the world's musical leaders and other Merseyside bands did not. The Beatles strongly rejected HDYDI not because it was a bad song, but because they wanted to do their own stuff and develop their own ideas. Gerry picked the song up and proved it was a decent song after all, but with it (and Mitch Murray's follow up I Like It), Gerry's role was to be 'just one of those Liverpool bands'.
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Post by The End on Nov 2, 2007 14:28:22 GMT
My point exactly!
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