Perhaps Brewmaster would know more about if he actually grew to be a fan of The Beatles.
I don't think Alan Williams was much of a music fan. A lot of his problems came from his alcoholism. His book "The Man who gave the Beatles away" was nonsense, but to be fair that was standard practice in the ghost-written pop publishing back then [eg "A Cellar full of Noise"]
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Yes, that's the impression I got about Allan Williams that he wasn't a real fan of music. He only saw business opportunities. Derek Taylor ghost wrote A Cellar Full of Noise. Taylor is a great writer but he was obviously given his orders by Brian. Homosexuality was obviously still illegal in Britain at the time of publication.
The Man Who Gave The Beatles away was nonsense but a lot of it caught on as the truth that held for decades.
That's interesting Lovelyrita. Perhaps Brewmaster would know more about if he actually grew to be a fan of The Beatles.
Lewisohn in Tune In states that the Beatles never actually performed any original material (or very, very little) from about 1959 and only started performing original material around the time of Brian Epstein coming on the scene. There's absolutely no one who could have realised the songwriting potential at any point.
On balance though, Allan Williams took The Beatles as far as he could. He didn't have the contacts or financial standing to take them forward. Its probably a bit of an exaggeration to say he 'gave the Beatles away' but everyone needs an angle! His contribution to their formative years was immense though and he deserves all the acknowledgement.
Thanks i must get that Mark Lewisohn book , i've read many Beatle books but they say this and Revolution in the head (which i have) get the best plaudits.
Nice obituary. In truth, Williams was never going to take The Beatles any further than where he took them. Although he clearly thinks he missed an opportunity, that opportunity would never have likely come The Beatles way if he continued to manage them. Epstein had the contacts, financial status, vision and presentation skills. That's not to do Allan Williams down. He played his part which was an essential part. He never really gave them away. He had to give them away in the grand scheme of things.
Tommy Moore once again gets bad comments in that obit. Could not remember his time with the Beatles ha ha.Funny really when he says Williams book was far from the truth. Having read some of Spencer's work I was far from impressed.
I will be so happy when David Bedford brings out his book that will include a full story of Tommy.
Sssh..but Woodbine played a hand in it all as well.
It is sad that the man has died, and my thoughts are with his family.
He never came across to me as an idiot. He was a bit older than the rest of them (although not 36 as the Philip Norman book Shout! states - I think!).
The Beatles, like all the other bands where going nowhere at that time so a steady job, supporting a family and not having to put up with Lennon's antics was the sensible thing to do at that time, I'm sure.
In truth, Williams was never going to take The Beatles any further than where he took them. Although he clearly thinks he missed an opportunity, that opportunity would never have likely come The Beatles way if he continued to manage them.
Agreed 100% If Alan had still been managing, the lads would have still been working at the Jacaranda with periodic trips to Hamburg!
bigche: Hey you guys see this yet? Here's the imposter posing with Paul and the Beatles in '64 - over 2 years before permanently assuming the missing Beatle's identity in late '66: youtu.be/8hJ709TEjOs
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Mr Kite: Have you ever thought about getting out a bit more ?
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