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Post by mrmustard on Dec 31, 2014 11:34:05 GMT
A near perfect album but the final side with all the instrumental jams is totally unworthy of the rest of the album. Pointless, self-indulgent nonsense that has no place alongside the brilliance of the likes of Isn't It A Pity, Let It Down, All Things Must Pass.
It was really just an excuse to stretch the album out to 4 sides but in doing so took the edge off what is, arguably, the best solo Beatles album.
Discuss......
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Post by Amadeus on Dec 31, 2014 16:23:52 GMT
You mean six sides?
I sort of consider it the first example of an album released with 'bonus' tracks. It's really a double album with a bonus disc of jams, sort of like a souvenir. For the fans. Of course you don't have the option to buy the double album in a regular sleeve without the 'bonus' tracks.
I wonder how many folks would have bought the box set 'jam' version over a regular gate-fold double album if it was available? I would imagine that the double would sell more than the triple???
As far as packaging goes, it's a beautiful package. I have a 'mint' condition orange apple version with the poster and sleeves intact. I might not like it as much if it was just the ordinary green apple or worse, purple capitol label. I've seen those!
It's hard to say when one is approaching all this stuff years after it's been released and declared a 'classic'. Might have had more definite opinions if I was picking it up as a new album.
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Post by mrmustard on Jan 1, 2015 12:16:41 GMT
Sorry, yeah I did mean six sides. Nothing gets past you dude!
Yes, in fairness I probably would have purchased the extended version over the double just because it's more and I'm a bit of a completist. However what do you think about the jams on a musical level? Worth the effort and vinyl?
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Post by Amadeus on Jan 1, 2015 17:08:17 GMT
Yeah. Huh. Strangely unsatisfying. Aimless blues scale noodling. Not an especially great Clapton jam. Johnny's Birthday is sort of the high point.
For the timeline, I believe that Blind Faith was over, Derek and The Dominoes was over and he still had his major crush on Patti. Wasn't that when the heroin started?
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Post by mrmustard on Jan 17, 2015 19:46:27 GMT
I believe it was when the heroin started. John and Yoko where apparantly doing heroin at this point also. Yeah, Derek and the Dominos split in 1971. I thought they where together much longer.
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Post by Mr Kite on Jan 18, 2015 16:58:38 GMT
I love All Things Must Pass . One of my all time Fav`s
Anyone who underrates George I just say . "You`ve never head All Things Must Pass then ?" A brilliant album that well and truly got him out of the shadows of Lennon / McCartney .
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Post by mrmustard on Jan 18, 2015 22:04:57 GMT
You could say he finally achieved getting out of the shadow of Lennon and McCartney on Abbey Road with arguably the two best songs on the album.
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Post by Mr Kite on Jan 18, 2015 22:16:42 GMT
You could say he finally achieved getting out of the shadow of Lennon and McCartney on Abbey Road with arguably the two best songs on the album. Good point . I guess he did with his first real Solo album as I guess Plastic Ono Band was a bit to "Heavy" at the time .
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Post by mrmustard on Jan 18, 2015 22:31:50 GMT
Yes, perhaps his abbey road songs gave him the confidence and drive to do All Things Must Pass.
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Post by beatlebabe on Apr 15, 2015 15:14:35 GMT
I love All Things Must Pass . One of my all time Fav`s Anyone who underrates George I just say . "You`ve never head All Things Must Pass then ?" A brilliant album that well and truly got him out of the shadows of Lennon / McCartney . I totally agree with you - All Things Must Pass is so beautiful - very haunting. In fact, I know this sounds very morbid, but I want this played at my funeral! There's a simple acoustic version on Anthology and that's the one I want. Just a shame I won't be there to enjoy it...but the words say it all - nothing lasts forever and things pass over or move on - it's natural.
George was so deep.
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Post by mrmustard on Apr 15, 2015 18:23:11 GMT
I totally agree with you - All Things Must Pass is so beautiful - very haunting. In fact, I know this sounds very morbid, but I want this played at my funeral! There's a simple acoustic version on Anthology and that's the one I want. Just a shame I won't be there to enjoy it...but the words say it all - nothing lasts forever and things pass over or move on - it's natural.
George was so deep.[/quote] It's not morbid at all. There is something about those acoustic demos (All Things Must Pass, Let It Down) that is so pure and beautiful that was lost with Phil Spectors selfish production techniques. I totally believe George Martin would have produced the whole album in a much more appropriate way. Welcome to the forum beatlebabe !!!
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Post by beatlebabe on Apr 16, 2015 12:30:06 GMT
Thank you Mr Mustard! This forum is great, and very interesting, and I have a lot to say! You know, when Paul issued Let It Be Naked a few years ago, the difference between his and Spector's version were mind blowing! Paul was right to be very angry when he found out about Spector's production on his compositions (with the consent of John, George and Ringo!) The choir of angels and that dreadful 'wall of sound' just weren't the Beatles! It was great to hear Paul's stripped back songs to how they should have been in the first place. I cannot think of anything more beautiful than a song in it's infancy, where it grows and develops with trial and error. It's the work of craftsmen.
George Martin had impeccable taste, years of experience and would have made such a difference to Let It Be.
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Post by henryj on Apr 17, 2015 0:53:39 GMT
I bet Paul considers Phil Spector's 19-to-life sentence to be for what he did to "The Long and Winding Road."
Back to your regularly scheduled All Things Must Pass thread.
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Post by mrmustard on Apr 17, 2015 10:37:59 GMT
Thank you Mr Mustard! This forum is great, and very interesting, and I have a lot to say! You know, when Paul issued Let It Be Naked a few years ago, the difference between his and Spector's version were mind blowing! Paul was right to be very angry when he found out about Spector's production on his compositions (with the consent of John, George and Ringo!) The choir of angels and that dreadful 'wall of sound' just weren't the Beatles! It was great to hear Paul's stripped back songs to how they should have been in the first place. I cannot think of anything more beautiful than a song in it's infancy, where it grows and develops with trial and error. It's the work of craftsmen. George Martin had impeccable taste, years of experience and would have made such a difference to Let It Be. There is a story that Paul actually approved the release of Let It Be although never bothered listening to it. There was a general apathy among all involved and the feeling that they just wanted to get something out after the desperate Get Back sessions and all the hours and hours of tape hanging over them. It was only later following it's release that Paul heard it properly. It's interesting with The Long and Winding Road that Lennon plays bass. If you listen with headphones the bass playing is dreadful, to the point of comical that, at one point, McCartney appears to laugh at yet another of Lennon's bass howlers. Paul could have easily overdubbed his own bass onto this if he was that bothered at the time but he let it go. He was quite happy to wipe George's guitar parts when he felt like in favour of his own guitar parts. When you get down to it, Let It Be and The Long and Winding Road where the only problem songs. Spector's production was, as usual, over the top, unnecessary and only served to promote himself, not the song or the band. The rest of the songs where great as they where e.g. I've Got A Feeling, Dig a Pony, Don't Let Me Down, Get Back and Let It Be Naked offered no improvement and, in my view, these songs came out worse in Naked. However I'm not certain what level of involvement Spector had with these songs. The only one good thing he did was to get George Harrison to re-do his solo on Let It Be. For all the things that you and many other people (me included) dislike about Phil Spector's production on Let It Be, it's nothing compared to what he did on All Things Must Pass. He virtually buried the album, the songs and George's voice. It was only because the songs where so strong (as you have said on a previous post - the All Things Must Pass demos) that the album came through. I totally agree, if George Martin would have had full production control over Let It Be it would have been a much better album.
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Post by mrmustard on Apr 17, 2015 10:39:38 GMT
I bet Paul considers Phil Spector's 19-to-life sentence to be for what he did to "The Long and Winding Road." Back to your regularly scheduled All Things Must Pass thread. In that case he should have got even longer for what he did to the All Things Must Pass album!!!
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Post by lovelyrita1 on Mar 17, 2017 14:02:14 GMT
I found this lovely fan video of What Is Life made for a competition and they were selected as winners by Olivia and Dhani Harrison. Such a joyous song.
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Post by Mr Kite on Mar 18, 2017 11:34:44 GMT
Yeh it`s a great Video is that
Even the Demo`s get me reachin for an hanky .
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Post by lovelyrita1 on Mar 18, 2017 11:50:25 GMT
Yeh it`s a great Video is that Even the Demo`s get me reachin for an hanky . excellent, love Harrison's voice.
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