Also, to call Ringo 'adequate' is ill-informed to say the least and an insult to the most famous drummer in the world. He was a highly imaginative and influential drummer. I guarantee Phil Collins would not refer to Ringo as adequate. Buddy Rich might (and did) but then he was a miserable get who only liked jazz and big band swing!
Buddy Rich meant it as a high compliment to call Ringo adequate. Rich thought most drummers sucked.
I wonder if it came down to Ringo being a more compatible personality and that was part of the reason he was taken on by John Paul and George. People forget the massive negative impact it had on Rory Storm and the Hurricanes as they still had shows to complete for the Butlin's Skegness contract. The Skegness residency was a mess with the Elephant incident and the massive crowd fight that caused Johnny and Rory to flee from a serious beating and of course Johnny (and Ringo) having to live in a caravan off site after getting caught doing the naughty with a guest and nearly getting the lot of them fired. It is clear to me this was a pivotal period and if John and Paul and never appeared it might have led to a massive reassessment of where RSATH were heading. If the hurricanes especially Johnny and Ringo and really put forward a case for changing the set list and writing new material themselves even if it meant that everyone had a punch up and were not speaking for a couple of weeks things would have settled down and a new direction would in all honestly have been agreed upon; but thanks to Ringo leaving the energy went into trying to keep a drummer instead of creative growth. It is one of the great mysteries to me as a RSATH fan why the utter devotion to the traditional rock n roll sound from Rory. With acts like The Faces Led Zep and The Stones all using rock n roll to produce something rather special, then you can see how close RSATH came to success. Pete Best sacking caused chaos to so many.
I don't think anyone has hit on the age difference. Just think back here's John 22 the leader of the group and Paul 20 who looks like he's 15 and George 19 who also looks 15, then Ringo comes along at the same age as John, hold on John probably thought, here's someone I can relate to who likes the same shit as me! I don't know how old Pete was, but I think John was bored with him. Look at Pete now, he's still boring! lol Who would want to be around him for any length of time? But Ringo was fun to be around. Even if we don't hit the 'Big Time' we still can have fun!
Post by bluemeaniepaul74 on Nov 19, 2013 22:45:38 GMT
Perhaps you could say that our Ringo had his tongue firmly thrust against his cheek when he came up with that little gem of a quote, but then again I wouldn't be surprised if he believes it to be true. I don't think Ringo does modesty and who can blame him?, he was in the greatest band of all times yet has been vilified down the years as nothing more than an average drummer who got lucky, ok he's not my favourite Beatle by any stretch of the imagination but I think he deserves better than that. Also I wouldn't be surprised if his quote was in answer to this kind of question, "Do you think you were lucky to be in the Beatles?".
Someone has probably mentioned this but Lennon and Starr also have the link of being fatherless sons which seems to mirror the motherless son link he had with McCartney. I noticed a lovely photograph of them both on holiday taken by Starr that cropped up recently. It might be from Barbados and from about 1966 and shows such a different side to them both.