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Post by Bobber on Mar 14, 2008 15:52:43 GMT
Funny thing is that everybody regards the step from Rubber Soul to Revolver and especially to Sgt Pepper as a major one. Sgt Pepper was something that had never been done before, so to speak. But, after listening late last night (with the girlfriend on holidays in Spain), I realised that it's The White Album that is another step in the line. From Rubber Soul tot Sgt Pepper is quite natural actually, but The White Album is the album that is a different story. A complete different sound, almost gone with the harmonies and songs that are not in line with the ones before on the other albums. Opinions?
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Post by The End on Mar 14, 2008 16:11:51 GMT
I still remember my first reaction to the White Album when I first heard it - to me it felt very dark and spooky!
It really has a mood unlike any other Beatle album. This may be attributed to the fact that they had SO many songs to record after their Indian trip and often went off individually to finish their own songs in the studio, which may or may not have helped with the tensions surrounding the sessions!
There's no questioning that they produced some of their greatest recordings during this period though.
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Post by drod on Mar 20, 2008 19:33:00 GMT
yea i was kinda confused.. the white album is way different than the other albums. The white album had a darker side then the other albums.. why did they make such a dark album... even though there music on that album is jus amazing
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Post by Bobber on Mar 20, 2008 19:36:55 GMT
Welcome in here drod!
Funny thing is that the people called the album 'The White Album'. It has a dark side to it!
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Post by the carnabys on Mar 28, 2008 16:56:44 GMT
I love the White Album.
I remember first hearing it all and I actually thought it was a rough sounding Beatles. It reminded me of a CD full of demo's and not polished which was charming in its own way
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Post by alaskan on Apr 5, 2008 16:45:59 GMT
The jump of Revolver to White Album was the jump of the 60s in a nutshell. The band, and society in general jumped from the last vestiges of the suit and tie appearance being somewhat de rigeur even for musical stars - and other celebrities as well. In between the Beatles went through coifed hair and satin suits and all the fantasy clothes of 67 (ever see films of Hendrix in 67?) the whole kaleidescope sound of SPLHCB and MMT - and so music and fashion followed into psychedelia. But by the next year, there they were with an album cover in pure white. The title was just as simple: The Beatles (but no one calls it that). Here is Lennon & McCartney now in denim shirt and t-shirt, unshaven, hair parted in the middle. Real. Natural. No more fantasy trip. And fashion as well as music followed along. The whole Austin Powers garb suddenly seemed so dated. And the sound of the White Album followed that. They'd jumped from "Here,There, and Everywhere" to "Happiness is a Warm Gun" in just a couple of years. What an incredible leap.
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Post by Bobber on Apr 6, 2008 12:07:30 GMT
They'd jumped from "Here,There, and Everywhere" to "Happiness is a Warm Gun" in just a couple of years. What an incredible leap. But then they jumped from You Can't Do That to Tomorrow Never Knows in the same amount of time.
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Post by BlueMeanie on Apr 7, 2008 8:39:23 GMT
They'd jumped from "Here,There, and Everywhere" to "Happiness is a Warm Gun" in just a couple of years. What an incredible leap. But then they jumped from You Can't Do That to Tomorrow Never Knows in the same amount of time. Actually, I think 'From Me To You' to 'She Loves You' is a pretty big leap.
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Post by eppy on Apr 7, 2008 16:38:47 GMT
The White Album as it is commonly called is just called 'The Beatles' and it does have a more serious edge, I personally like the Kinfaus bungalow Demo's they did of the songs from the album acoustically, I can imagine The Beatles doing 'Unplugged' on VH-1, STUNNING Album my second best after Revolver.
There is a Bootleg called The Black Album contains Let it Be/Get Back material.
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Post by alaskan on Apr 10, 2008 0:36:37 GMT
Getting back to jumping from this song to that, the whole jump from Revolver to White Album involved the music in between. Think of the amazingly creative studio production and songwriting which happened between the two releases. With the exception of "Tomorrow Never Knows" I think Revolver still had a pretty tight song format. But then came all the experimentation - from tape mixing ( like Strawberry Fields) to lyrics (like "Walrus") to sonic quality ("Day in the Life") - which is what makes the mostly unadorned style of White Album songs so special. The boundaries of what you could do in song were already blown wide open. The acoustic songs were not just about romance and the rockers were more spontaneous and unstructured. In that way I think what was laid down on that release still affects songs today. Sort of like redefining popular songs after completely blowing wide open.
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Post by the carnabys on Apr 10, 2008 9:21:41 GMT
Like said previously, The White Album saw the rules re-written. The styles and structures were played with more. Revolver was still very structured like previous albums of that era.
The obvious reason for this difference with the white album (previously mentioned too most likely) is the ways the four beatles were going with their own work.
The White Album, in parts, was like 3 (occassionally 4) song writers working on their own solo projects. Again this is more Paul and John, although Geroege also was now considered a song writer in his own right. I know he had started to break into the song writing front and having numbers on albums already, but he had some great numbers on White Album. Songs that were more assured in themselves too in my view.
There is a self confidence about his songs on White Album that for me suggest he valued himself on par with the Lennon/McCartney song writing team (evene though they too were doing stuff alone for this album).
So really, I've just re-itterated what people have already said so far :-D
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Post by beatlestone on Apr 10, 2008 14:53:54 GMT
I got the White Album for Christmas way back in 76 during my younger days. It knocked me out from beginning to end & is the Beatles ultimate masterpiece. It has everything on it from rock, pop, blues, folk, a little avant garde & no overkill like Sgt. Pepper. I was watching this Guns-n-Roses rockumentary on TV a few years ago, which Slash compared the Use Your Illusion albums to the White Album, which is crazy.
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Post by the carnabys on Apr 11, 2008 7:57:01 GMT
Sgt Pepper over-kill?? What!!! Woahhhh :-)
Sgt Pepper is of a particular style but surely no overkill. There is enough variation in it.
I'd say the White Album is the most laid back Beatles album. THe sort you can play in the background whilst doing other stuff and still enjoy it.
Whereas other albums in the back ground leave me concentrating on the music and wanting to sit down and sing along.
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Post by alaskan on Apr 11, 2008 13:02:34 GMT
Yeah, I agree with carnabys that SPLHCB isn't overkill. What the hey, it's '67, you have the whole world waiting to hear what you do next. You have unlimited resources, time and money and unlike any other band you aren't even bothered by things like playing live. You aren't just the flagship of popular music but the pride of an entire country. Not any pressure or anything. It certainly delivered when it came out and it still stands up today as a revered piece of popular music. Sure, rock has returned to a more gritty style. That's what rock music is all about. But this release is a point where a rock band was also defining all popular music as well. Great music that still appeals to tons of people who aren't into rock music.
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Post by beatlestone on Apr 12, 2008 22:31:26 GMT
I'm talking about all the pomp & circumstance about Sgt. Pepper that I consider overkill. It's too overrated just as much as it was over 40 years ago when the White Album is whole lot better.
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Post by the carnabys on Apr 21, 2008 12:40:16 GMT
Haha, well I disagree with that Beatlestone. But not with the statement over which is better of the two albums. I go through phases of my favourites although Revolver never gets replaced at the top.
But the hype surrounding Pepper was well justified in my view. Just happens that there was more hype than White Album received and its equally good an album in different ways.
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