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Post by The End on Sept 10, 2009 12:02:23 GMT
Have you got any of the remastered CDs yet? If so, what do you think of them?
I got the stereo box yesterday - I've played the first 4 so far bit disappointed that they didn't fix the ending of Please Please Me, but overall the sound quality is amazing - Paul's bass seems much more to the fore too.
Unfortunately my copy of With The Beatles is damaged and will be returned to HMV this afternoon!
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Post by EuanB on Sept 10, 2009 14:41:09 GMT
I've been told not to buy them my parents are getting the stero boxset for my birthday
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Post by The End on Sept 10, 2009 22:20:38 GMT
Wow, nice prezzie! Please let us know what you think of the stereo remasters when you get them
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Post by elementrypenguin on Sept 13, 2009 17:51:07 GMT
I've came back from buckingham today. i got Rubber Soul,Revolver,Sgt. Pepper and Abbey Road from HMV. also i got two beatles posters (One with that picture of them walking in london,the other is the cover of abbey road). you can hear alot more individual intruments yes,but there's only a few you can notice the differences in. Here Comes The Sun and Eleanor Rigby stand out. i think they could've been better. they are brilliant if you haven't got any beatles cds yet,like me. but if you have the 1987 remasters or the original LPs,do get these,they are brilliant,just don't expect a big change. and what's exactly wrong with the end of please please me?
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Post by blueblackbird on Sept 14, 2009 12:49:52 GMT
I've came back from buckingham today. i got Rubber Soul,Revolver,Sgt. Pepper and Abbey Road from HMV. also i got two beatles posters (One with that picture of them walking in london,the other is the cover of abbey road). you can hear alot more individual intruments yes,but there's only a few you can notice the differences in. Here Comes The Sun and Eleanor Rigby stand out. i think they could've been better. they are brilliant if you haven't got any beatles cds yet,like me. but if you have the 1987 remasters or the original LPs,do get these,they are brilliant,just don't expect a big change. and what's exactly wrong with the end of please please me? the harmonica and voices are a bit out of sync.
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Post by miker on Sept 14, 2009 13:09:39 GMT
If for some reason you haven't heard the remastered tracks yet, you should check out the new Beatles Widget featuring videos and the new digitally remastered audio tracks. Just click on the link below: www.clearspring.com/widgets/4aa4cbc0d1c4b34aAlso, with you can do things like post this widget in your facebook profile so that your friends can listen to The Beatles.
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Post by The End on Sept 14, 2009 13:22:45 GMT
and what's exactly wrong with the end of please please me? the harmonica and voices are a bit out of sync. Yep - it's a bad edit that only exists on the stereo version - the timing between the left and right channels (speakers) is way out of synch. However, If you read the press releases that they put out before 9/9/09 they said that any bad edits had been fixed/re-done. So what happened with Please Please Me then, which is by far THE worst edit of them all. A huge missed opportunity I think but the only disappointment of the set so far.
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Post by The End on Sept 14, 2009 22:32:34 GMT
Hmmm, not so sure about the quality of the disc pressing and packaging though - I've already had to change With The Beatles (stereo) because it was scratched and now I find that A Hard Day's Night (mono) is also scratched! On top of that, two sleeves are damaged - I'm taking the threes discs back to HMV tomorrow! What a bloody nuisance (them, not me!).
At least my dongle is working fine now though!
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Post by mrmustard on Sept 14, 2009 23:05:08 GMT
Got the Mono box set at the weekend and I am very impressed. having only heard Sgt Pepper in stereo the mono version is like listening to a different album.
It's funny, a lot of the stereo mixes we have grown up with were never mixed by George Martin, let alone with The Beatles in attendance. The stereo mixes were usually made some time after the mono mixes by other engineers and a bit of an after thought. Decisions made at the time of mixing in Mono seem to have been forgotten about by the time the stereo mix came round. The mono set is definitely the set to have. It's just a shame that to complete the remastered albums I will need to but Yellow Submarine, Abbey Road and Let It Be in stereo. Also Pasters Masters volume 2 so I have Old Brown Shoe and a few others.
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Post by The End on Sept 15, 2009 0:34:11 GMT
I don't think Past Masters is available as two volumes anymore - I think you have to buy it as a double CD.
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Post by blueblackbird on Sept 15, 2009 3:21:11 GMT
the harmonica and voices are a bit out of sync. Yep - it's a bad edit that only exists on the stereo version - the timing between the left and right channels (speakers) is way out of synch. However, If you read the press releases that they put out before 9/9/09 they said that any bad edits had been fixed/re-done. So what happened with Please Please Me then, which is by far THE worst edit of them all. A huge missed opportunity I think but the only disappointment of the set so far. I can't understand why they messed it up in the first remaster anyway. I'm delighted with the new work. Unfortunately I can't afford the Box Set. I'm thinking about buying a couple of albums from de Setereo version. I was thinking about Please Please Me. Which album do you think that stands out from the rest? (Quality speaking)
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2009 15:43:41 GMT
Got the Mono box set at the weekend and I am very impressed. having only heard Sgt Pepper in stereo the mono version is like listening to a different album. It's funny, a lot of the stereo mixes we have grown up with were never mixed by George Martin, let alone with The Beatles in attendance. The stereo mixes were usually made some time after the mono mixes by other engineers and a bit of an after thought. Decisions made at the time of mixing in Mono seem to have been forgotten about by the time the stereo mix came round. The mono set is definitely the set to have. It's just a shame that to complete the remastered albums I will need to but Yellow Submarine, Abbey Road and Let It Be in stereo. Also Pasters Masters volume 2 so I have Old Brown Shoe and a few others. Unfortunately, my limited finances (and Mrs Arthur!) are preventing me from buying such delights. So until there's a window of opportunity, I'll play my present Sgt Pepper stereo CD with the mono button pushed in on my amplifier!!
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Post by elementrypenguin on Sept 15, 2009 18:54:05 GMT
Yep - it's a bad edit that only exists on the stereo version - the timing between the left and right channels (speakers) is way out of synch. However, If you read the press releases that they put out before 9/9/09 they said that any bad edits had been fixed/re-done. So what happened with Please Please Me then, which is by far THE worst edit of them all. A huge missed opportunity I think but the only disappointment of the set so far. I can't understand why they messed it up in the first remaster anyway. I'm delighted with the new work. Unfortunately I can't afford the Box Set. I'm thinking about buying a couple of albums from de Setereo version. I was thinking about Please Please Me. Which album do you think that stands out from the rest? (Quality speaking) Revolver and Abbey Road stick out for me.
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Post by mrmustard on Sept 15, 2009 20:23:37 GMT
I don't think Past Masters is available as two volumes anymore - I think you have to buy it as a double CD. Bah! They've got you every way
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Post by mrmustard on Sept 15, 2009 20:27:32 GMT
Got the Mono box set at the weekend and I am very impressed. having only heard Sgt Pepper in stereo the mono version is like listening to a different album. It's funny, a lot of the stereo mixes we have grown up with were never mixed by George Martin, let alone with The Beatles in attendance. The stereo mixes were usually made some time after the mono mixes by other engineers and a bit of an after thought. Decisions made at the time of mixing in Mono seem to have been forgotten about by the time the stereo mix came round. The mono set is definitely the set to have. It's just a shame that to complete the remastered albums I will need to but Yellow Submarine, Abbey Road and Let It Be in stereo. Also Pasters Masters volume 2 so I have Old Brown Shoe and a few others. Unfortunately, my limited finances (and Mrs Arthur!) are preventing me from buying such delights. So until there's a window of opportunity, I'll play my present Sgt Pepper stereo CD with the mono button pushed in on my amplifier!! But you are going to miss out on extra loud laughing on the end of Within You Without You, Paul really ad libbing lots in the Sgt Pepper reprise and an extra loud alarm clock in A Day In The Life. Are you sure you want to wait and save up?
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Post by lennon9091 on Sept 16, 2009 17:50:44 GMT
Decided to buy the new remastered CD's one at a time. Just got Help! today and it sounds really good to me and i have only got a basic midi system. I have read some reviews saying parts of some songs seem loud and a bit harsh . All i noticed was a small section at the beginning of "I need you" but nothing to put me off buying the other Cds. I haven't played Help! for quite a while and forgot what a cracking album it is . "Tell me what you see" i think is a little classic
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Post by Beatle Bob on Sept 17, 2009 1:13:02 GMT
I tell you, I'm just overwhelmed with the everything done to these Beatles albums. The mono box has wonderful packaging, with the CDs in cardboard sleeves with a plastic over wrap (resealable like a Dr. Ebbetts release) and they are easy to remove from the sleeves. Comes with a 40+page booklet. The stereo discs are in beautiful digipacks with glossy booklets with new liner notes, session info, etc. Classy presentation all around. The audio is what makes these remasters the talk of the town though. The mono discs are crisp, full of snap and punch. There are times things like a cowbell jumps out at you unexpectedly from a mono recording. Case in point: MONO MASTERS disc #1, "I Call Your Name". Whoa. How'd they do that? SGT. PEPPER'S rocks harder. The WHITE ALBUM, same thing. Stereo PAST MASTERS - just listen to the opening part of "Thank You Girl" with the hard strumming guitars and pounding drums by Ringo. It will knock you out of your seat. Crank up "Paperback Writer" and you are enwrapped in a rock and roll song that gains power like never before. Guitar jabs on "I Me Mine" from LET IT BE pierce your ear drums. They want to bleed. ABBEY ROAD...the drums. Ringo's drums benefit as well as Paul's bass. My speakers never heard such bass frequences before. It rattles and I have to turn the bass down! The moog synthesizer isn't muddy. The anvil on "Maxwell's Silver Hammer" feels like a lightning bolt to the brain. I've never heard bongos on "A Hard Day's Night" until I spun the stereo remaster. This clarity and new found power to these recordings is remarkable. A hazy layer that always masked these recordings are now gone. It's almost like hearing new mixes...but they're not! They sound like a revitalized band thanks to the wonderful and superb job done by the mastering team. Right now, I'm rediscovering them, hearing new anomolies, and detail with such definition that I never expected to hear. I'm now in Abbey Road's Studio 2! Regards, Beatle Bob
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Post by The End on Sept 17, 2009 13:25:02 GMT
I was looking forward to your comments Beatle Bob - so would you say these re-masters render the Dr Ebbetts releases redundant?
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Post by Beatle Bob on Sept 18, 2009 16:09:29 GMT
I'm a big a fan and supporter of DESS as I am (and still swear by his work), but the fact that the remasters are from master tapes and not sourced from pristine virgin vinyl, (using modern advanced equipment/technology) that wasn't available back in '87,makes all the difference in the world to some. Of the remasters--what I've heard so far, it's literally mind-blowing. You are probably saying, "How can DESS ever compete with the original master tapes now that it's been done right"? DESS releases are still phenomenal releases, so don't get me wrong. Apple is now giving us the ultimate reproductions from master tapes. DESS gives us the ultimate from pristine virgin vinyl. Two different point of views. Up until now the Beatles catalog on CD was a joke and their attention to detail, and what collector's wanted was a joke. DESS presented the best of what was on original vinyl (up to this point, the '87 CDs could not compete with DESS releases in any way shape or form). DESS releases still give you the albums the way we remember hearing them on vinyl and replicated the labels (which is what EMI is copying now, but not perfectly) and bettered anything EMI ever offered us on CD. For the vinyl drops he made, there is a difference in over-all presence, ambiance and warmth that the '87 CDs lacked: The original pristine virgin vinyl needle drops by DESS were able to overcome and overshadow the legitimate releases each and every time. Each of his releases were an embarrassment to EMI and put their work to shame in each and every possible way. The DESS catalog has many titles and mixes not being released by EMI, that make many of his releases still relevant and necessary. There still is a place for DESS CDs in my collection no matter how good these new remasters are. They do not loose their importance, or vitality and equally will share shelf space with the remasters in my house. EMI is not going to preserve history the way Ebbetts has. His work is still vital and important. God, I miss him. If he ever resurfaces I'll be the first to buy his product! In essence, you need Ebbetts and you need the remasters. Regards, Beatle Bob
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Post by The End on Sept 22, 2009 19:05:55 GMT
Thanks Beatle Bob - interesting comparisons.
On a side issue - have you (or any one else) heard of any disc problems with the mono boxset - I've had to replace two discs (AHDN and Revolver) and my replacement copy of Revolver still skips on the first four tracks!
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