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Post by mrmustard on Feb 4, 2009 20:44:01 GMT
Sorry if this has been discussed before on the forum but I would be really intersted know peoples views on Let It Be Naked. Was there any point in doing it? Was it any better than the original release?
Without doubt, to me, it was done solely for McCartneys long running discontentment with Spectors over-production on The Long and Winding Road. For this alone it may have been worth it but I feel there are a lot songs on Naked that got a worse mix and production than on the originally release album. The rooftop songs definitely lost their edge namely I've Got A Feeling and The One After 909. Harrisons guitar work is left low in the mix and the songs loose real balls. My other bug bearer, all not on the original album, is Don't Let Me Down. The mix on the three harmony vocals in the chorus is totally wrong. Harrison is too high in the mix so the harmony between Lennon and McCartney is lost. There are many other examples.
I used to detest Spectors work on the original album but with the exception of The Long And Winding Road and Let It Be (although the 2nd Harrison solo is the best and should have been used) he aactually did a much better job than Naked.
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Post by larosh on Feb 4, 2009 22:52:21 GMT
Naked is the one I have. The only 2 songs I've really heard from the original are Let It Be and The Long and Winding Road, so I can't really compare the quality of the rest of the album. I agree that The Long and Winding Road was definitely better, and I probably would have bought it just for that (I didn't really know much about any of it at the time when I bought it), but as for my impression of the rest of it...it did have a certain quality about it. Just from that being the only thing I've heard, it felt a bit...I'm not sure if weak is the right word. Something just not quite as vibrant about it. I don't know if I was imagining that, and I'll have to listen to the originals to really make any judgement.
With Long and Winding Road, the one on Naked was what I was used to and my brain when "No, no, no, no, no" when I heard the original.
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Post by zipp on Feb 5, 2009 19:59:17 GMT
The answers to your questions are no and no.
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Post by mrmustard on Feb 5, 2009 21:35:26 GMT
The answers to your questions are no and no. Speaking words of wisdom hey...........................
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Post by Michelle Revolution on Feb 19, 2009 22:22:30 GMT
I really like the version of Across The Universe from this album. It's very dreamy.
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Post by number9 on Mar 2, 2009 6:29:38 GMT
Hello, I'm out here in California, USA and just wanted to pipe in on my fav group. Well I like the LIB...naked CD ok but i grew up with the original and that is the one i play when i'm in the mood for some LIB . my only hope is that when (if) they do remaster their albums that they remaster the 1970 LIB. I dig all of the talking and i miss dig it and maggie mae on either side of LIB on side one ...oh and LIB...naked sounds so odd without John talking and Two of Us starting things off. Anyway some of the tunes sound...well too naked on LIB...naked. Yes I know that is what they were going for in 1969 but even though I do not like Spector I think he did ok on that original mix. I think Paul's versions of LIB and Long and Winding Road may have been a bit to bare so spector gave them some body...maybe too much but he did something with a bunch of songs that none of them wanted to deal with. Can you imagine the song LIB never getting released??? YIKES!! I sure hope they don't skip 1970 LIB remaster just beause LIB...naked was done. They are not the same album at all IMHO. And yes these newer LIB...naked versions lost their edge IMHO. Jim in SoCal, USA. PS - this is my very first post, hello everybody!!
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Post by mrmustard on Mar 2, 2009 10:53:12 GMT
Thanks for replying to this post and welcome to the forum.
I think you raise an excellent point in that The Beatles had a load of songs they just didn't want to deal with. Understandably George Martin had nothing more to do with it. Glyn Johns' mixes didn't really add anything (but I suppose he went along with the original plan of no overdubs). As Lennon said along the lines of 'Spector was give the shittiest load of shit ever recorded', he did a pretty good job with the benefit of hindsight and definitely in comparison to the release of Let It Be Naked. If we are being honest the resulting Let It Be Album was a salvage job - The Beatles had jumped ship along with everyone else and there was a lot of money tied up in this project. The songs on the album never suffered and were among the best The Beatles ever wrote. It was just the manner and attitude with which the songs were recorded that suffered.
Now, if we talk about Spectors production on All Things Must Pass, that is a different matter and he definitely had a detrimental effect on that.
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Post by briank on Mar 9, 2009 7:13:56 GMT
It's weird, I heard it once and never went to listen to it much again. They were challenged with the material they used, but it didn't FEEL as much like The Beatles, although it was "very clean". All the breaths taken out, etc.
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Post by missbaez on Mar 15, 2009 23:13:22 GMT
I was expecting mucg better. True, the version of TLAWR is much better than on the regular LIB, but it wasn't enough to justify the money I spent on the entire album. I thought the "Fly On The Wall" CD could have been much better too. It was far too short.
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Post by nimrod on Apr 17, 2009 13:46:37 GMT
I dont like Naked at all, I prefer TLAWR with orchestra and choir and I like Johns missing funny bits..
I have Naked, but I never play it.
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Post by coconutfudge on Jun 17, 2009 14:15:02 GMT
I like "Let It Be...Naked" although I think there were mistakes made. If they're going to strip down the music, then all the between song talking from the original "Let It Be" would have really fit in nicely. It would have been nice if they had included "Maggie May" and the film version of "Dig It". And that bonus disc was a waste. But I love that George's accoustic guitar work was put back onto "For You Blue". It's nice that both are available, but I'm looking forward to the remastered version of the original.
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Post by elementrypenguin on Jan 7, 2010 19:15:25 GMT
i love the version of the long and winding road. that's the most controversial,well,for paul anyway,but that's really the only songs on the album that really had a point. the whole album was kind of a way to release paul's original version of TLAWR really. other than that it had no point. i've gotta say,spector's work was actually needed on some songs. i don't know if it's just me,but i me mine sounds totally crazy in it's naked form.
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Post by uhepcat on Jul 5, 2010 21:14:28 GMT
New to this forum and to the Let It Be..Naked album. I bought it today on vinyl and i like it. Now if it's better than the original issue i can't say but it's different and i like some songs like Let It Be and Get Back better on this issue. I'm gonna get a good vinyl copy of the original issue and compare.
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Post by todd4 on Mar 2, 2013 16:13:26 GMT
I liked the chatter removed and this is the only LIB album I will ever listen to again (well most of the time). I rate it 5 out of 5, but that is a matter of taste again. The only thing is that I prefer the original Long and Winding Road with the orchestra.
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Post by mrmustard on Mar 2, 2013 21:04:58 GMT
I liked the chatter removed and this is the only LIB album I will ever listen to again (well most of the time). I rate it 5 out of 5, but that is a matter of taste again. The only thing is that I prefer the original Long and Winding Road with the orchestra. I can't agree with this I'm afraid. Naked offered no improvement in my opinion and served only in satisfying McCartneys long-lived desire to have the album 'unspectred'. All the rockier tracks - I've Got A Feeling, One After 909, Dig A Pony - all lose their edge with poor mixes. I'm left with a feeling of dissatisfaction. Still, it made Apple a lot of money and kept McCartney happy. I'll stick with the original 1970 release.
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Post by bluemeaniepaul74 on Mar 3, 2013 20:23:52 GMT
I've never been a fan of 'Let It Be...Naked' and have very rarely listened to it over the decade it's been available. I just feel it comes across as weak or diluted compared to the original save for 'The Long And Winding Road', 'Let It Be' and particularly 'Across The Universe' which to my ears sounds as beautiful as it's ever done. Also I agree with those who feel the absence of the talky talky bits detract from it too, in my mind the sniffing, coughing, talking and laughing before or after a track immediately transport you to the Apple roof and no matter how many times I listen to it I always laugh at Johns "I hope we passed the audition" bit at the end of 'Get Back'. I suppose in a way 'LIBN' was always destined to fail on certain levels as we will natrually always compare it to the original which had had a 33 year head start on it at the time of its release, perhaps if they'd been released simultaneously all those years ago opinion might be a little more divided. To answer MrMustards question though I don't think 'LIBN' was worth doing and I can't think of any reason why it would have been released other than to appease McCartneys discontentment at Spectors 'Let It Be' as others have mentioned and it would be interesting to know how much sway Paul had in the 'Naked' release?!. Also some cynics may point to it just being another Apple/EMI money spinner but then again the same accusation could be levelled at 1999s 'Yellow Submarine Songtrack' and the 2006 'Love' album, however... Where those two albums are concerned...I feel a slight warmth (incontinence is no laughing matter!) whereas 'LIBN' leaves me with a feeling of indifference... Anyway, "I'd like to thank you on behalf of the forum and ourselves and I hope we passed the audition"
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Post by ranger on Mar 4, 2013 11:31:25 GMT
I would say 'no', although it did propel the group back into the limelight for a few weeks, and it was MUCH, MUCH better than the pointless one week novelty of 'Love'.
I simply didn't understand the need for airbrushing the material as I'd much more have preferred the Glyn Johns mix of 'Get Back' to 'Naked'.
The only wholly successful post 'Let It Be' (1970) release for me was 'Live At the BBC' and, given that 9 and 10 CD bootlegs appeared soon afterwards of BBC material, it has always puzzled me why a Volume 2 didn't appear.
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Post by brentp on Mar 7, 2013 20:56:39 GMT
I kind of like it because Let It Be (original) feels kind of rushed in to it, you know? And the sound quality and fibe just feel a bit nicer
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Post by The Sun King on Mar 10, 2013 19:45:03 GMT
Let it be naked IMHO was a total waste of time.As I've discussed before You shouldn't go over the same old ground.Yes Let it Be has it's flaws,which I think makes it more interesting.Albums should be remembered in their time they were created. They have their chance to get it right in the studio at that particular time. What's the point in rehashing the same material . It can only be for commercial gain.
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Post by plangentmusic on Mar 18, 2013 11:44:16 GMT
I like the strings on TLAWR, I just think they're mixed too loud.
Interesting to note, although McCartney was said to dislike the Spector arrangement, it's the one he plays when he performs the song live.
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