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Post by galbraith on Jun 21, 2017 8:26:20 GMT
Hi everyone
I am asking for your help and knowledge.
It's a simple question...Imagine if the Beatles never happened... What do you think John, Paul, George and Ringo would've done after they went their separate ways after George got sent home from Hamburg?
I'll start ya off
Say... John stayed in Hamburg, gigged with anyone he could Paul went into accounting George worked in a guitar shop Ringo won the pools and opened a hairdressers
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Post by pothos on Jun 21, 2017 10:03:23 GMT
Ringo would have tried to rejoin RSATH John might have followed fine art George and Paul might have tried to set up other bands Paul might have gone into music management or the business side of the industry.
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Post by Mr Kite on Jun 21, 2017 19:57:48 GMT
Paul would have been working as a Hospital Porter John would have been a Docker George a Bus Driver Ringo a Glass collector at Butlins
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Post by brewmaster on Jun 22, 2017 16:58:36 GMT
My take would be that had John stayed in Hamburg while George and Paul were deported, then initially John would have joined up with Tony Sheridan. This would not have lasted long; both were alpha personalities, and Tony never worked well with others. Remember, Hamburg only really had one rock venue operating at any one time, so in all probability John would have returned to Liverpool. I can't see Paul giving up playing music, so I'm sure together with George and Pete they would have gravitated to the Casbah and started playing together. They may have recruited a bass player [possibly Chad Newby] to complete the classic line-up of two guitars, bass and drums. The return of John to Liverpool would have reformed the Beatles, because from all the evidence he was not interested in a conventional job. So the group would have reconstituted. Liverpool was ready for their Hamburg honed rock, so, in my opinion, they would have still become the biggest thing on Merseyside.
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Post by ROCKY on Jun 22, 2017 18:04:09 GMT
Well let's put it another way, what if they were so po'ed with the music business that they would have never played live again anywhere, together or seprately. What would they have done? I'm sure Paul's dad would have found him a half decent job somewhere, maybe in accounting. Ringo would have gone to America, he was thinking about doing that anyways, and opening up a hair salon. George maybe an auto mechanic, he was into cars. Oh and John, the ruffian of the group, he would have been beat up and die in one of the back alley's of Liverpool. Similar to what happened to his friend Stu. He had a black cloud over him since the day he was born.
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Post by henryj on Jun 22, 2017 20:40:11 GMT
When the Beatles first became popular and successful, the journalists wrote that they had never had conventional ("day") jobs. But wasn't Ringo a hairdresser at one time and George an electrician's assistant? At any rate, I don't think they would have quit music altogether; I think they would have taken day jobs and gigged in the off-hours.
John or Paul might have been in a band that got to be as popular as Buffalo Springfield, but without "For What It's Worth" or graduating to CSNY or Poco.
Isn't speculation fun?
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Post by ROCKY on Jun 22, 2017 20:46:30 GMT
Then again what if they would have each started up they're own bands, and each band became more popular than the Beatles! lol
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Post by pothos on Jun 22, 2017 21:59:59 GMT
There is a thread somewhere I think on the Rory thread on all the jobs The Beatles had before they broke.
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Post by ROCKY on Jun 23, 2017 1:23:56 GMT
Yep, whatever you write, you're right. You could write they would have been ditchdiggers, who could disprove you?!!
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Post by mrmustard on Jun 24, 2017 15:02:22 GMT
In Mark Lewisohns Tune In he states all the jobs The Beatles had. John actually had some sort of summer work one year. Paul had quite a good job at an engineering firm with promotional opportunities. George was indeed an apprentice electrician. Ringo worked as a bar man on the ferries.
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Post by henryj on Jul 9, 2017 0:18:58 GMT
Without the Beatles, Bob Dylan would not have heard Beatles '65 (Beatles for Sale) and would probably not have gone electric.
The Byrds would not have invented folk-rock. Head Byrd Roger McGuinn said he listened to the Beatles and noticed that their chord progressions were like folk songs, but played on rock bank instruments, so playing folk songs on electric guitars, basses, and drums was what the Byrds set out to do.
No Monkees (the pre-fab four).
No a lot of groups and other acts.
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