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Post by Amadeus on Jan 12, 2017 15:25:30 GMT
As far as I recall, the Kubas/Koobas came from "over the water" [Wallasey], and played at the Caven quite a bit. On that album above their is a track by Greta Ann. I never heard of her, I'm sure she wasn't a regular on the scene [probably a niece of a record company boss!] Not much info on Greta Ann. Apparently that song is from 1965. Long after the initial Merseybeat and success of the Beatles.
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Post by Amadeus on Jan 12, 2017 15:28:49 GMT
Did you two or three who were there live near a 'scene'? Eg. Were you near Haymans Green or The Jac or were there other spots you were closer to? Or was is city wide knowledge of the entire scene?
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Post by brewmaster on Jan 12, 2017 18:11:07 GMT
I live quite near there. I never went to the Casbah, but did go to Lowlands which was also in the Green. There was a youth club there that had dances. West Derby featured several places that had records or live music, including St John's Hall on West Derby Road, and another big house in Sandfield Park that was a Catholic centre. Once I started going to the Cavern, most of my musical interest was in the city centre, although I did visit some suburban venues.
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Post by ROCKY on Jan 13, 2017 0:54:36 GMT
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Post by ROCKY on Jan 13, 2017 1:05:15 GMT
I live quite near there. I never went to the Casbah, but did go to Lowlands which was also in the Green. There was a youth club there that had dances. West Derby featured several places that had records or live music, including St John's Hall on West Derby Road, and another big house in Sandfield Park that was a Catholic centre. Once I started going to the Cavern, most of my musical interest was in the city centre, although I did visit some suburban venues. I always wondered where they came up with that title, without really checking. Is that pic taken at the entrance to The Casbah?
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Post by brewmaster on Jan 13, 2017 10:18:49 GMT
It certainly looks like the Casbah. Another local venue was West Derby Village Hall, which had dances and sometimes groups... ... it's still there, looking just the same. Right opposite was a small garage, where I sometimes heard a group rehearsing Shadows instrumentals. They sounded quite good.
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Post by ROCKY on Jan 13, 2017 19:40:28 GMT
The Roadrunners. Billed as Liverpool's first R&B group.
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Post by brewmaster on Jan 13, 2017 20:26:11 GMT
They were, very much, and R&B group. Mike Hart always struck me as a rather strange character. He later joined the Liverpool Scene poets.
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Post by ROCKY on Jan 13, 2017 21:53:41 GMT
He just passed away about 6 months ago. R I P Mike Hart.
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Post by brewmaster on Jan 14, 2017 10:52:53 GMT
A group I saw often was the Clayton Squares. I think Bob Wooler was involved in managing them, so they were on the Cavern numerous times. The group was named after an area in the city centre which had, amongst other things, a cartoon cinema. The area has now become a shopping centre. Unusually, the Squares featured two saxaphones, which gave them a distinctive sound. They covered some Ray Charles numbers, and I particularly enjoyed their version of this.... I had heard "Watch your Step" recorded as an instrumental by the John Barry Seven. I believe it was Kingsize Taylor who discovered the original Bobby Parker number, and several bands, including the Squares highlighted it.... They released a couple of records which were OK, but in my opinion, not as good as their live set The Squares didn't last long before lead singer Terry Hines formed his own group. Sax player Mike Evans joined former Roadrunner Mike Hart in The Liverpool Scene. He wrote a decent book The Art of The Beatles
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Post by ROCKY on Jan 14, 2017 14:01:05 GMT
Another girl group from Liverpool that is on that record singing 'Boys' is Jeannie & The Big Boys. The flip of that record is here: Jeannie real name Rita Hughes passed away in 1988.
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Post by ROCKY on Jan 14, 2017 14:08:10 GMT
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Post by brewmaster on Jan 14, 2017 15:25:37 GMT
Here's a video with some of the groups and the Liverpool cityscape of the time.....
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Post by pothos on Jan 14, 2017 17:24:59 GMT
Did Gerry and the Pacemakers and Billy J Kramer write their material?.
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Post by brewmaster on Jan 14, 2017 18:40:02 GMT
Gerry wrote "Ferry cross the Mersey"
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Post by ROCKY on Jan 14, 2017 18:59:52 GMT
He also wrote this song, with other members of the band, and gave it to her to record, then they covered it and it became their biggest selling record in America!
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Post by ROCKY on Jan 14, 2017 20:00:23 GMT
This is a pretty neat recording I never heard before. It's Billy J. Kramer's recording of "I'm In Love". Written by John & Paul, John brought it down to the recording studio for Billy to record and you can hear John giving Billy instructions on how to record it in the background with Billy saying 'I can't get it John' and then laughing. Brian eventually gave the song to The Fourmost to record. 49 years later, in 2012, Billy decided to record a version for his new album 'I Won The Fight'.
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Post by brewmaster on Jan 14, 2017 22:25:00 GMT
Rocky, I always like Louise Cordet. Nice version of Gerry's song.
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Post by mrmustard on Jan 14, 2017 22:32:10 GMT
Gerry wrote "Ferry cross the Mersey" Interestingly, I got Ferry Cross The Mersey the film as a Christmas gift. Have you seen it?
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Post by ROCKY on Jan 15, 2017 12:57:36 GMT
You know mrm I've been hunting for that on DVD for years! I guess I'll finally get a copy now.
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