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Post by Bobber on Mar 10, 2016 8:48:59 GMT
A friend of mine ran into a Beatles shirt at a garage sale. See pictures. The thing is that the experts don't agree whether this shirt and other memorabilia of this tour is official. Does anybody know anything about this? Did Columbia Records distribute these kind of shirts?
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Post by Bongo on Mar 11, 2016 13:10:23 GMT
I would think most of the rubber would be cracking at this age. Doesn't look like he right vintage to me, but I'm far from an expert.
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Post by ROCKY on Mar 13, 2016 13:45:57 GMT
Did Columbia Records distribute these kind of shirts? I think you mean Capitol/EMI Records. Columbia would be sued if they tried to release that. lol But I never seen that type shirt before. bootleg? Can't stop the little guy from trying to make a buck.
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Post by Bobber on Mar 14, 2016 14:43:39 GMT
Did Columbia Records distribute these kind of shirts? I think you mean Capitol/EMI Records. Columbia would be sued if they tried to release that. lol But I never seen that type shirt before. bootleg? Can't stop the little guy from trying to make a buck. Capitol. Right, that's what I meant. Were shirts for fans and/or roadies (Mal and Neil) common in 1965?
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Post by dean23 on Mar 14, 2016 17:49:25 GMT
I would think most of the rubber would be cracking at this age. Doesn't look like he right vintage to me, but I'm far from an expert. The printing process was different back then - today's tees crack because the ink physically sits on top of the garment. With early prints the ink was absorbed into the fabric - like a stain - rather than the thicker/rubbery ink used in more modern times.
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Post by dean23 on Mar 14, 2016 18:01:01 GMT
I think you mean Capitol/EMI Records. Columbia would be sued if they tried to release that. lol But I never seen that type shirt before. bootleg? Can't stop the little guy from trying to make a buck. Capitol. Right, that's what I meant. Were shirts for fans and/or roadies (Mal and Neil) common in 1965? For fans, no - you'd be hard pressed to find any photo with fans in a t-shirt - let alone one with any printing on it. Every so often you'll spot in a concert photo with a Beatles sweatshirt on from that era. But I suspect this is either roadie, other staff - maybe even local promoter, record store - or indeed an early example of a bootleg t-shirt. Perhaps along the same lines as this jacket that was auctioned in 2005: "Stunning original purple satin jacket worn by the Beatles entourage on their triumphal 1965 American tour is today worth much more than its weight in gold. Indeed, as with anything else touched by Fab Four history, whether worn, played, signed, regurgitated or sat on, the jacket carries considerable influence, as it would set the trend for the essential haute couture in roadie wear, though its simplicity is a stark contrast from the studded, star-spangled, logo and ad-covered jackets seen on roadies and other assorted hangers-on at rock concerts over the last three decades. No lips, tongues or Coca-Cola patches on this beauty. The only departure from the deep purple (good name for a rock band, isn't it?) motif are the profound words "Beatles 1965 American Tour" stitched meticulously in white satin lettering on the back. Neck, cuffs and waistband are cloth. Best of all, the jacket is in great condition, with no pilling or tears anywhere and with only traces of minor water staining and minimal fading. No size or other labels in the neck, but it appears to be around a size-40, medium-to-large. Not surprisingly, a jacket exactly like this is listed among the top ten memorabilia items on display at the Hard Rock Cafe. Beatles collectors with a faint hope of finding one for their own display cases might well describe it as a priceless artifact from what was at the time called the "North American Tour", which coincided with the group's 2nd Ed Sullivan Show appearance on August 15 and kicked off that day at Shea Stadium, running only through August 31 with other dates in Toronto, Altlanta, Houston, Chicago, Minneapolis, Portland, San Diego, LA, and San Francisco. The jacket was given new as a gift to a disc jockey in 1965, and has remained in his possesion ever since." lelands.com/auction/auctiondetail/23063/June-2005/Americana/Beatles-Memorabilia/Lot27~1965-Beatles-American-Tour-Jacket
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Post by Bobber on Mar 14, 2016 18:34:16 GMT
Thing is there hardly was any entourage. There were two men, Mal Evans and Neil Aspinall, who took care of the stuff and carried the grass. And there was Brian Epstein. That was their direct entourage. It seems hardly worth it to print shirts for them plus there are no pictures of them in shirts like these. I noticed on your website that this shirt doesn't have a label. I'm no expert either, but as a fan I would have my doubts to buy this shirt. If I had the money in the first place. :-)
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Post by dean23 on Mar 26, 2016 19:52:30 GMT
Thing is there hardly was any entourage. There were two men, Mal Evans and Neil Aspinall, who took care of the stuff and carried the grass. And there was Brian Epstein. That was their direct entourage. It seems hardly worth it to print shirts for them plus there are no pictures of them in shirts like these. I noticed on your website that this shirt doesn't have a label. I'm no expert either, but as a fan I would have my doubts to buy this shirt. If I had the money in the first place. :-) It does/did have a label that has deteriorated. And the neckline stitching matches 50s/60s tee construction. "Entourage" was not really my claim, that was quoted from the listing for the jacket. The point was that unauthorized vintage beatles merch exists. If you ask me that jacket was likely made by the radio station for their staff. I mentioned made for roadie, could have been local venue staff, sound techs, security. Could have been a local promoter, local record store or even fan made. This originated in Toronto. You can bet with beatles mania running wild people other than the beatles were making merch.
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Post by henryj on Aug 17, 2016 2:29:32 GMT
Wouldn't "Beatles" have been written in the same font as appeared on Ringo's bass drum?
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