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Post by johnny103068 on Feb 4, 2016 21:51:16 GMT
I've listened to the white album many times the sound of the music on here I can feel the resentment between the members on this album it's an album that has a lot of anger to it.
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Post by mrmustard on Feb 5, 2016 0:19:14 GMT
I don't hear that at all in the music. Can you give some examples of what you mean? Sure, Ringo isn't playing on a couple of songs, I'll give you that. However so many of the songs are the band playing together as a band, arguably the best they've ever played together on some tracks. Where's the anger?
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Post by Day Tripper on Feb 5, 2016 1:24:16 GMT
I agree with mrmustard. When I hear it, all I here is Beatles, nothing like anger.
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Post by Amadeus on Feb 5, 2016 2:06:54 GMT
I find there`s an indefinable darkness over the whole album. When I listen to all 95 minutes, it`s almost bleak at the end. Revolution 9 sort of drives that feeling home (to me) before they wish us Good Night.
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Post by henryj on Feb 5, 2016 12:50:50 GMT
Johnny, give us some examples. Or is it just the feel of the music you are referring to?
Now, "I Me Mine" from Let It Be is oozing with resentment from George. If you tie it in with the lyrics of "God," from Lennon's Plastic One Band album released later that year, the resentment may have been aimed at John, who tellingly did not appear on the final, official released version of "I Me Mine."
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Post by ROCKY on Feb 5, 2016 13:36:47 GMT
Yeah I would think the 'Let It Be' lp would be the one with anger. None of them gave a sh*t for that lp. The 'White Album' was made up mostly of the songs they wrote in India, where's the anger in that, outside of 'Sexy Sadie'.
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Post by Day Tripper on Feb 5, 2016 14:21:23 GMT
I find there`s an indefinable darkness over the whole album. When I listen to all 95 minutes, it`s almost bleak at the end. Revolution 9 sort of drives that feeling home (to me) before they wish us Good Night. You've got a point there. Personally, "Happiness Is A Warm Gun" is probably their scariest song.
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Post by mrmustard on Feb 5, 2016 18:59:03 GMT
Happiness is a Warm Gun scary? I don't hear that at all. Ok, the chorus lyrics could be perceived as violent perhaps but musically it's a beautiful song.
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Post by Day Tripper on Feb 5, 2016 19:19:18 GMT
Happiness is a Warm Gun scary? I don't hear that at all. Ok, the chorus lyrics could be perceived as violent perhaps but musically it's a beautiful song. It's definitely a good song, and I personally don't think it's scary, but if I had to pick one that would have to be it. I don't mean anything from "I need a fix..." to the ending; it's the beginning that could be deemed creepy: She's not a girl who misses muchDo do do do do, oh yeahShe's well acquaintedWith the touch of a velvet handLike a lizard on a window paneThe man in the crowdWith the multi-colored mirrorsOn his hobnail bootsLying with his eyesWhile his hands are busyWorking overtimeThe sole confession of his wifeWhich he ate and donated to theNational TrustIf you think about it, it is sort of creepy.
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Post by johnny103068 on Feb 5, 2016 19:48:41 GMT
@mrmmustard You ask where the anger is? It's in the music on the white album(to me it is anyway) Happiness is a warm gun, Helter Skelter, the album overall is a dark album with some wackiness mixed in, case in point The continuing story of bungalow bill , obla di obla dah wild honey pie, with the band making an effort to have some fun songs like Back In the U.S.S.R. Birthday.
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Post by Day Tripper on Feb 5, 2016 19:50:58 GMT
@mrmmustard You ask where the anger is? It's in the music on the white album(to me it is anyway) Happiness is a warm gun, Helter Skelter, the album overall is a dark album with some wackiness mixed in, case in point The continuing story of bungalow bill , obla di obla dah wild honey pie, with the band making an effort to have some fun songs like Back In the U.S.S.R. Birthday. I don't notice any anger in either Happiness Is A Warm Gun or Helter Skelter. Happiness, as I've already said, sounds a bit creepy, and Helter Skelter sounds like trying to be the hardest and best. I don't see where there's anger.
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Post by johnny103068 on Feb 5, 2016 19:57:06 GMT
henryj Just the feel of the music from the White Album a great album I admit but I feel there's hidden resentments on it and John, Paul, George and Ringo let it all out on this album all their angers their sadness happiness fears it's all there on the white album. Music from Let it Be on the other hand the group is trying to get back together but the magic is gone Abbey Road the music there the four lads are telling each other fuck you I've had enough. Just my feel anyway. Anyone else have an opinion?
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Post by henryj on Feb 5, 2016 21:57:24 GMT
Let It Be is where the boys realized it was all falling apart. With Abbey Road, some critics or other writers have observed that they realized this could be their last album, so they just let it all the resentment go, realizing that when the album is finished, they won't have to put up with one another any more. That made Abbey Road such a great album.
But rock and roll itself can be, by its very nature, occasionally angry. Rock and roll evolved out of rhythm and blues, a music created by an oppressed minority, African Americans. There was a feeling expressed in this music that teenage angst could identify with.
It could argued that the country and western influence on rock and roll came from the Celtic feeling of oppression by the English.
Oh, I can sense some anger, or it might be more accurately expressed as angst, in "Helter Skelter" and "Yer Blues."
One of the great things about music is how therapeutic it is.
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Post by mrmustard on Feb 5, 2016 22:00:45 GMT
@mrmmustard You ask where the anger is? It's in the music on the white album(to me it is anyway) Happiness is a warm gun, Helter Skelter, the album overall is a dark album with some wackiness mixed in, case in point The continuing story of bungalow bill , obla di obla dah wild honey pie, with the band making an effort to have some fun songs like Back In the U.S.S.R. Birthday. Dark in places certainly. Anger....no. There is no anger in Helter Skelter that I hear. The birth of heavy metal maybe (that's another conversation) but lyrically no anger. Happiness is a warm gun...I hear a glorious song with glorious harmonies. Lyrically based on a magazine Lennon saw of George Martins with a single line. It was in no way a hit out at the American NRA. Bungalow Bill again, I just don't hear anger there. It's a story of a hunter.
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Post by ROCKY on Feb 5, 2016 22:50:59 GMT
Now Rap that's where the anger is. Cop Killer, etc.
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Post by Bongo on Feb 7, 2016 3:20:22 GMT
I've listened to the white album many times the sound of the music on here I can feel the resentment between the members on this album it's an album that has a lot of anger to it. I feel the total opposite of this Johnny. Yes it is very much an individual LP, but they did write most of these songs while meditating with the Maharishi.
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