|
Tracks
Jan 21, 2008 0:05:37 GMT
Post by Michelle Revolution on Jan 21, 2008 0:05:37 GMT
Why didn't EMI switch to 8 track earlier, other independent studios had them? I thought Abbey Road was a supposed to be a top recording studio.
|
|
|
Tracks
Jan 21, 2008 6:20:10 GMT
Post by briank on Jan 21, 2008 6:20:10 GMT
Argh, I just wrote a long reply and it diasppeared! Argh...
|
|
|
Tracks
Jan 21, 2008 10:09:56 GMT
Post by The End on Jan 21, 2008 10:09:56 GMT
That is so annoying when that happens!
|
|
|
Tracks
Jan 23, 2008 10:44:35 GMT
Post by briank on Jan 23, 2008 10:44:35 GMT
Basically - not EVERYONE had an 8-track. There were maybe TWO in England when the Beatles wanted one (Stone had used one, THAT was an issue! Beach Boys too...) America had more common 8-tracks, going back as far as 1958.
But when Abbey Road DID get their 8-track (for The White Album) George Martin rejected it - it could not do "the tricks" they liked that the 4-tracks already did. So it needed work and he sent it off to be worked on. HALF A YEAR later - still not done and the Beatles got mad, so.....
|
|
|
Tracks
Jan 23, 2008 10:46:05 GMT
Post by briank on Jan 23, 2008 10:46:05 GMT
This is still FAR shorter than the original reply. But basically it is all in our book - about 35 minutes of reading on just the 8-track, and an hour or more about how they used it! Lots of details...
|
|
|
Tracks
Jan 23, 2008 13:11:55 GMT
Post by The End on Jan 23, 2008 13:11:55 GMT
Definitely placing my order when it's back in stock Brian
|
|
|
Tracks
Jan 29, 2008 10:10:41 GMT
Post by briank on Jan 29, 2008 10:10:41 GMT
You CAN order it still - many people are... It just can't be ready right away. Very slow process - waiting in line behind other books, shipping across oceans etc....
|
|
|
Tracks
Jan 29, 2008 11:19:29 GMT
Post by The End on Jan 29, 2008 11:19:29 GMT
Okey dokey - I'll order mine today
|
|
|
Tracks
Mar 27, 2008 13:21:13 GMT
Post by the carnabys on Mar 27, 2008 13:21:13 GMT
What book is this?
|
|
BlueMeanie
For A Number Of Things
I am he as you are he as you are me and we are all together
Posts: 606
|
Tracks
Mar 27, 2008 13:32:44 GMT
Post by BlueMeanie on Mar 27, 2008 13:32:44 GMT
|
|
Mrs K
What Goes On In Your Heart
their production will be second to none
Posts: 40
|
Tracks
Mar 27, 2008 19:44:35 GMT
Post by Mrs K on Mar 27, 2008 19:44:35 GMT
Hey Brian, is it worth the money?
|
|
|
Tracks
Apr 1, 2008 0:26:52 GMT
Post by Michelle Revolution on Apr 1, 2008 0:26:52 GMT
Basically - not EVERYONE had an 8-track. There were maybe TWO in England when the Beatles wanted one (Stone had used one, THAT was an issue! Beach Boys too...) America had more common 8-tracks, going back as far as 1958. But when Abbey Road DID get their 8-track (for The White Album) George Martin rejected it - it could not do "the tricks" they liked that the 4-tracks already did. So it needed work and he sent it off to be worked on. HALF A YEAR later - still not done and the Beatles got mad, so..... Thanks for the explanation Brian. When you say EMI's 8 track couldn't do the tricks that their existing 4 track could, do you have any examples of this?
|
|
|
Tracks
Apr 30, 2008 10:39:49 GMT
Post by briank on Apr 30, 2008 10:39:49 GMT
Hey Brian, is it worth the money? Depends. It has lots of unseen photos of the studios and the band. TONS of gear information (if you like that, it's heaven) and a many good explanations for "normal" people about how they recorded stuff. Most people like the last section the best - year by year changes to how they worked. But there are lots of good Beatles stories from the people who worked there all the way through the book. Ask someone else (who didn't write it) if they like it...
|
|
|
Tracks
May 1, 2008 8:56:12 GMT
Post by The End on May 1, 2008 8:56:12 GMT
I'll let you have an objective view when mine arrives
|
|
|
Tracks
May 2, 2008 6:57:52 GMT
Post by briank on May 2, 2008 6:57:52 GMT
Thanks for the explanation Brian. When you say EMI's 8 track couldn't do the tricks that their existing 4 track could, do you have any examples of this?[/quote] EMI had a rule (long to explain, but "it's explained in the book"; the engineers and producer had to hear the tape sound coming off the machine, but the musicians could not - or it would make them off time with the music. The new machine didn't do this. For similar reasons, they couldn't do ADT, phasing or flanging effects like they had before. The new machines needed other parts added and modifications done. Etc etc.
|
|
alaskan
What Goes On In Your Heart
Posts: 64
|
Tracks
May 2, 2008 16:04:12 GMT
Post by alaskan on May 2, 2008 16:04:12 GMT
the engineers and producer had to hear the tape sound coming off the machine I am curious. Do you mean tape heads in play position to do real time audio monitoring? And what is ADT?
|
|
|
Tracks
May 3, 2008 10:15:10 GMT
Post by The End on May 3, 2008 10:15:10 GMT
That's what I understood Brian meant. ADT is artificial double tracking - I believe it was invented at Abbey Road. The Beatles used to double track their vocals to thicken them up, which meant they had to sing their parts twice. When ADT was introduced, a vocal would be recorded and played back a split second later, thus providing two vocals. This effect was used a lot on Revolver - if you listen to the stereo version of Eleanor Rigby, you can hear the effect being applied to Paul's vocal on the choruses and removed again on the verses.
|
|
alaskan
What Goes On In Your Heart
Posts: 64
|
Tracks
May 3, 2008 20:16:27 GMT
Post by alaskan on May 3, 2008 20:16:27 GMT
Aha! I always knew most of the vocals double tracked but had no idea they had invented a means to do that automatically. Now that is brilliant.
|
|
|
Tracks
May 5, 2008 1:03:52 GMT
Post by briank on May 5, 2008 1:03:52 GMT
I am curious. Do you mean tape heads in play position to do real time audio monitoring?
|
|