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Post by ROCKY on May 23, 2014 2:05:45 GMT
Ok so far we visited three places that the early Beatles played. This one on May 30th, 1960 coming up to it's 54th anniversary next Friday! This club/bar was owned by Allan Williams and he got them gigs there when he couldn't find anywhere else for them to play. Located on Slater Street in Liverpool. Now my question is, this is another place that Liverpool wants to rip down! Do they have a thing against there beloved sons? If they keep on going like this there won't be anything left! How do they keep castles going for a thousand years and wipe out other buildings in just 50 years? jmu-journalism.org.uk/bid-to-keep-jacaranda-memories-alive/
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Post by pothos on May 23, 2014 11:39:43 GMT
I think Mr M needs to answers some of your concerns Rocky. I think some of the buildings relating to recent UK musical culture such as the original Cavern, Wigan Casino, Eric's and The Hacienda et al played a massive role in UK and global popular culture but this has never seemed important to the UK powers that be in regards to preserving the iconic buildings. In fact if you recall the documentary posted about the preservation of John Lennon's home by English Heritage do you recall the snobbish attitude given towards Ringo. I could not imagine the same comments being made about and ancient Royal Palace for example yet these buildings are important to future generations showing how from incredible humble beginning a global music culture exploded onto the world at large.
Even buildings such as the Bronte Parsonage, Jane Austin's home and Robert Burns homes was only saved through a mixture of good luck and hard work by fans from the era. Even Shakespeare's first folios only exist because his mates collected as many of his plays as they could and had them printed out of their own pocket.
I think if the really powerful in the UK had their way the likes of The Beatles would fade from history as they broke all the existing hierarchy in the 1960's.
I think future generations will not look on the UK kindly for loosing so much late 20th century cultural touchstones when saving them would have been easier than at any point in history.
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Post by ROCKY on May 23, 2014 12:15:37 GMT
Well said pothos.
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Post by beatlebabe on Apr 15, 2015 15:23:17 GMT
We were in Liverpool last June and stayed just around the corner from Slater Street. We were hoping to visit the Jac but it was going through a refurbishment, so I cannot say what the new Jac is like...but at least it hasn't been pulled down. We went there about 10 years ago one Easter as there was some Beatle related live bands performing. It was very run down, as I think the owners were trying to preserve that 60's feel. I remember seeing some artwork on the walls but not sure if this was the mural completed by Stuart Sutcliffe. I only hope that whatever the owners have done to the Jac it's sympathetic to it's history.
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Post by ROCKY on Jan 26, 2016 15:48:42 GMT
Thought this was a neat short video of the paintings they found of Stu and John's when the removed the plywood walls from the Jacaranda Bar during renovation.
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Post by ROCKY on Jan 27, 2016 1:44:23 GMT
Brew you might know this, is that Norman Chapman's drum kit they have set up on the wall and do you know whose strat they have hanging there?
....hey I just noticed somebody was making out on the video! lol what was it two o'clock in the afternoon. ha-ha
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Post by brewmaster on Jan 27, 2016 10:25:19 GMT
Next time I'm in the area, I'll pop in and find out.
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Post by brewmaster on Jun 1, 2016 10:21:04 GMT
Series of interviews with Alan Williams
Note that Alan's grap of the truth can vary, and the interviewer doesn't seem very clued in either!
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Post by ROCKY on Jun 1, 2016 18:33:30 GMT
Ha, are they both on drugs? Interviewer introduces him as Alan Wilson. lol The Beatles came to America in 1961? lol The Quarrymen broke up in 1956? hmmm a year before they began! ha-ha
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Post by brewmaster on Jun 2, 2016 11:21:44 GMT
And the sad thing is Rocky, that lazy researchers will quote such interviews as fact. Reminds me of the time TV presenter Donna Airs asked The Corrs "Where did you all meet?"
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Post by ROCKY on Jun 2, 2016 14:15:31 GMT
And the sad thing is Rocky, that lazy researchers will quote such interviews as fact. Reminds me of the time TV presenter Donna Airs asked The Corrs "Where did you all meet?" LOL. and Pink Floyd....oh btw which one is Pink?
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