trev1
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Post by trev1 on Jun 17, 2013 20:19:45 GMT
It's off the Anthology II from 1996. What do you make of this track? Do you like it? What Beatle plays their instrument well? Who is off form? Should it have been worked on more? Could it have been something? Why did they even record it? Just some questions I have
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2013 20:29:25 GMT
Why don't we listen to it (to refresh) and of course, there may be some of us who have never heard it yet?
Then we can take each of your questions in turn. Is that OK?
Here it is :
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Post by Amadeus on Jun 17, 2013 22:18:11 GMT
I have a few thoughts. I have the whole 6 minute version and it was done twice and each version is practically identical which means that the whole thing was written. That being the case, it seems likely that the Beatles were not a good 'jam' band. And weren't good at writing instrumentals. They weren't lousy players, they were just hopeless at 'jamming'.
And the reason they did it was likely because they had no material for an album that was due to be released in Dec and this was Oct when they started to work on Rubber Soul. But it turns out they didn't need it after all which just illustrates how bloody creative they were even under pressure to HURRY up and write material for an LP to be released in 3 months. And it was recognised as an innovative and stunningly different sort of album anyway!
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Post by mrmustard on Jun 17, 2013 22:59:11 GMT
I concur and I have said this many times on this forum that The Beatles were terrible jammers. It is a pretty lousy piece of music by Beatle standards. What's even more interesting is that they roped George Martin into playing harmonium!
I want to say they were rubbish at playing blues but Yer Blues is a staggeringly great blues effort and one of my favourite Beatle songs. However even in this song the guitars solos are weak.
Personally I'm glad 12 Bar Original didn't make Rubber Soul or any originally released Beatles LP. Anthology is the perfect place for it.
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Post by ROCKY on Jun 18, 2013 11:06:55 GMT
Yes a quite boring song and they probably knew it at the time after hearing the playback. No zip to it and I agree with the rest of you, glad they didn't release it on "Rubber Soul' and agree with mm, Anthology was the perfect place for it.
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klang
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Post by klang on Jun 18, 2013 13:30:47 GMT
Something like this is "studio warm up" type stuff.Of course,it is well known among Beatle fanatics that the Fabs employeed many rock and roll roots numbers for this very same purpose.I saw the clip of them doing a part of it on "David Frost" just before they broke into "Hey Jude".Is there any hard evidence that they actually intended it for "Rubber Soul"?Would have been out of place there but not,however,on maybe the White Album....
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2013 19:53:31 GMT
Something like this is "studio warm up" type stuff.Of course,it is well known among Beatle fanatics that the Fabs employeed many rock and roll roots numbers for this very same purpose.I saw the clip of them doing a part of it on "David Frost" just before they broke into "Hey Jude". Is there any hard evidence that they actually intended it for "Rubber Soul"?Would have been out of place there but not,however,on maybe the White Album.... No really hard evidence but they (The Beatles and George Martin) were considering including it on 'Rubber Soul' had they not come up with the required number of songs for the album. You can read all about it - and more - HERE. That's what I like about The Beatles. After 50 odd years of listening to and reading about them, they never fail to fascinate me.
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henryj
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Post by henryj on Jun 18, 2013 22:49:27 GMT
Back in the '60s it was not unusual for rock bands to include bluesy instrumentals on their records. The Lovin' Spoonful had "Night Owl Blues" on their first album and the Byrds had "Captain Soul" on their third. The Rolling Stones had a near-instrumental called "Stoned," the title of which Jagger muttered at certain parts of the cut, along with other choice words.
What "12-Bar Blues" has in common with "Stoned" is that both cuts really want to be "Green Onions." Both were like Booker T. and the MGs without Booker T. There were lead guitar parts on each cut that sounded pretty much like Steve Cropper.
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Post by The End on Jul 9, 2013 12:58:37 GMT
Totally agree with all that's already been said on the matter but would add to Mr Mustard's comments about the harmonium, which is dreadful for a number of reasons... 1 It's not a suitable blues instrument - it's really thin and weak-sounding. 2 Playing it in the same manner as blues piano was a big mistake as the attack is much slower, which makes the timing sound a bit delayed. 3 A Hammond organ would have been better if played ala the Small Faces. 3 It's just a terribly arranged solo altogether (probably for all the above reasons). No amount of Sixties organ could have saved this track though - it's just awful! So thankfully the track was ditched!
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rdnzl
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Post by rdnzl on Jul 15, 2013 2:41:39 GMT
I listened to this again...It's awful. Perhaps it should have been called "12 Bar Unoriginal". To my ears it resembles Booker T & The MG's "Little Green Onions". I don't even think it was good enough to be released at all. Instrumentals were not their thing.
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