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Post by jikomublops on Jun 14, 2011 23:25:17 GMT
There are creepy people out there who dislike the Beatles? It's true. As a journalist, I did my duty in researching a story about the Beatles on iTunes and the like -- and ran into decidedly anti-Beatles sites sixteen years old...it's as if someone discovered the Internet and decided to make an anti-Beatles site, all on the same day. Naturally, these meanies soon became the focus of the article. Those with strong stomachs may click www.suite101.com/content/not-everyone-wants-to-meet-the-beatles----even-digitally-a372498 for the article detailing the iTunes reception of the Beatles and the grumpuses who didn't care in the first place. I went to high school in the 90s, so my experience is limited, but did anyone outside the initial Beatle buzz (besides me) hit resistance with liking the Beatles while growing up? "Not Everyone Wants to Meet the Beatles -- even digitally" by Angelo Lanham: www.suite101.com/content/not-everyone-wants-to-meet-the-beatles----even-digitally-a372498 |
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Post by Mr Kite on Jun 24, 2011 15:12:20 GMT
It`s there loss.
Simple as that .
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Post by The End on Jun 24, 2011 15:22:47 GMT
I got bored before reaching the second paragraph - a very poor attempt at controversial journalism. Ignore it.
[EDIT by The End: 22/02/2013 - Please ignore this comment as it is wrong]
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Post by beatsme on Aug 6, 2011 6:20:44 GMT
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Post by beatsme on Aug 6, 2011 8:33:17 GMT
Paul being the Walrus and all that, is this not about the "Illuminated ones"
A lot of these secrets are starting to come out.
I posted earlier about the Beatles not making their own music?
The BEETLES? There seems to be a lot of Egyptology going around with these celebrities in one form or another. Just look at the back of the U.S Dollar and Jay Z and Beyonce doing the pyramid symbol.
Beetles are Scarab Beetles are they not?
More Egyptology, like the Obelisks in Rome etc.
I did see that OSLO Thing on YT. Looks very fake! We'll have to see what comes of it. The world is very strange these days...then I have to hear that the Beetles might not have written their own music? oy vey!
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Post by philbeatlefan on Aug 22, 2011 21:00:39 GMT
Hi I have heard of Alan Watt and watched many of his videos and have heard of Theodore Adorno. Is it possible that one man can lay claim to writing all those songs? Why didn't he go public, or did he? The Tavistock Institute wrote the wartime propoganda songs like Run Rabbit Run & Pack up your troubles so i guess it is possible that their connection to The Beatles is more than just some advice on how to conduct yourself in America. I never understood why The Beatles never appeared to own their own songs, i guess they were shafted. The Beatles are easy meet for criticism always have been ever since the Klu Klux Klan and those fundamentalists burnt their records after John's "Beatles are bigger than Christ" comment. Phil |
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Post by jikomublops on Feb 18, 2013 1:26:42 GMT
Mr Kite -- very true -- their loss, what can you do? TheEnd -- sorry I bored you with my "very poor" journalism -- before the second paragraph at that! With your name, I would've thought you'd be able to reach "The End!" (Sidenote: controversial?)
As for claims made over the years by others who claim to have played instruments and/or written the music of the Beatles, I choose to dismiss it as hogwash and go on my way. The hard facts are that I have and enjoy the complete Beatles discography. If those discs don't represent a band developing stylistically over the years, then whoever wrote the songs and played the tunes for them did a hell of an impersonation of such.
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Post by The End on Feb 20, 2013 0:29:15 GMT
Wow - finger is right on the pulse there! LOL  And can't wait to read your response to that in 2015! |
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Post by jikomublops on Feb 21, 2013 21:06:36 GMT
If someone goes on that you've produced a heap of garbage and you don't notice until a few years later, do you a) be big and ignore it, or b) make a silly pun about "the end" and get all prickly? (answer = b). And then you can't very well get all wobbly chinned about something like that without commenting on other interesting stuff that was mentioned on the thread.
Simple logic, really. Just had to make a bit of a squeek about it. When you post something hoping for feedback, you expect some people to hate it. You don't necessarily expect an imperious plea for all to ignore it.
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Post by The End on Feb 22, 2013 0:35:09 GMT
Is it 2015 already? That was me being a smart-arse not me being prickly by the way!  Being such an old post, I had to go back and re-read the original article (all of it this time) and was surprised to find it was not at all how I remembered it - so either you completely re-wrote it or I was wrong but as I am never wrong, I suspect it was the former... I'm joking of course. But seriously though, I either read far, far less than the two paragraphs I mentioned in my original post or my comments were in reaction to another article by a Beatle basher that I posted in the wrong thread; because you are right, it most definitely isn't a controversial piece. Either way, I am sorry for making such a flip comment back then because it was wrong... or it was taken wrong... and now it's all this (to quote John Lennon in 1966!  ) Anyway, welcome back to the forum, Angelo - I hope you'll stick around AL |
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Post by jikomublops on Feb 24, 2013 22:37:21 GMT
Thanks much for the welcome back -- for the record, I was saying that I was the one getting prickly, not you, b/c I get that it's a bit weird to bring it back up after a couple years. When you write, your pieces become something like children. Sure, every once in a while one comes out with black eyes and an extra hand coming out of its head, but even then get a bit defensive. Appreciate the good gesture of actually reading the clunker.
Anyhoo, I've managed to find myself some long overdue time to log onto all my forums, and I'll definitely be logging on more often.
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rdnzl
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Post by rdnzl on May 6, 2013 7:01:43 GMT
As a child in the 1960's, I just assumed that everyone loved The Beatles. Their records were in all of my relatives' homes. Their "latest" albums and songs were always a topic of discussion at my grandparents' house. Even my grandfather liked them. I recall a cookout in our backyard in summer of '66. We must have played "Revolver" (albeit the US version) about 20 times!
I never knowingly encountered a Beatles Hater until I was a teenager. A friend threw a party and I provided the music with my stereo system. I brought along a variety of record albums, including the "1967-1970" album. When I played that one I got into an argument with a kid who told me "The Beatles are crap. Don't you have any Black Sabbath?". I tried to explain that it wasn't The Beatles who were crap, it was his musical taste that was crap!.
I now realize that peoples' musical tastes are as varied as the number of musical choices we have. Nobody can force me to enjoy New Kids On The Block or Lynyrd Skynyrd. And I sure as hell can't force anyone to love Van Der Graaf Generator, Be Bop Deluxe, Mahavishnu Orchestra or Yes. We can try to expose each other to different things, but in order to enjoy it there must be something of personal value to the sounds.
I get a lot of pleasure out of hearing Chris Squire's "Fish Out Of Water" album. To my ears, this is some of the finest music I've got in my collection. But I'm sure I can find someone that would be bored to death with it.
It's okay to hate The Beatles, as long as the hate doesn't develop into violence. To think your own musical tastes are superior to others is just wrong.
I cannot imagine how someone could not enjoy "Strawberry Fields Forever", "While My Guitar Gently Weeps", or "Golden Slumbers/Carry That Weight/The End". It defies logic to me that these songs that mean so much to me could sound awful to somebody else. But it is reality. It feels offensive and sometimes like a personal attack when someone tells you that your musical taste is wrong. Someone says "I hate The Beatles", and it almost feels like a physical wound!.
Just take a deep breath and relax. Perhaps feel sorry for them for not knowing the beauty of Paul's fuzz bass on "Sun King" or the thrill of the orchestral build-up in "A Day In The Life". Feel sad for them that their favorite band very likely does NOT have an interesting history like The Beatles. Just shake your head and pity them for not appreciating or even knowing about the various recording variations in their catalog.
Then remind yourself that it's only music.
All we can do is try to expose others to the sounds we love. Maybe they'll love them too.
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Post by ranger on May 6, 2013 8:21:45 GMT
I've never come across anyone who lived through the 60s (let's say, born in the 1930s and 1940s) who 'hated' The Beatles.
Not one, ever.
Never met one, never read about one, never seen one on TV.
Sure, there are those who preferred the original Rock 'n' Rollers (not an unreasonable view to have), R 'n' B, Soul, Folk, etc. etc., but to hate The Beatles in 1966 was akin to, if you were English, hating Bobby Moore lifting the World Cup! Why would you?
The 'haters' came after the 60s, and I've always suspected that it has more to do with missing the 60s, than hating The Beatles specifically.
There's also a certain logic in being, say, aged 20 in 1976, and thinking, 'Hey! If I'd been 20 in 1966, I'd have been living slap bang in the middle of the swinging 60s.....and now I'm not.'
'The Beatles' is just a convenient short-hand to use to react against that travesty.
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Post by tkitna on May 10, 2013 10:19:12 GMT
My Dad hated them and he lived through the 60's. He was a country music guy though. My oldest brother hates them. Whatever, to each their own. I hate a ton of bands that people love. No big deal.
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