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Post by stellaartios1366 on Aug 19, 2010 18:35:57 GMT
I always thought that there were 13 studio release albums however Wiki has made me wonder by stating that there were only 12 - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Beatles_discographyCould anybody shed any light on this difference in figures?
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Post by mrmustard on Aug 19, 2010 19:06:14 GMT
This is correct. Are you counting Magical Mystery Tour as an album? If so, this wasn't released as an album until the 70's in the UK. It was originally an EP in 1967 in the UK and LP in the US in 1967.
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Post by stellaartios1366 on Aug 19, 2010 20:13:31 GMT
Thanks Mustard, that seems to be the one I had wrong. I've did a little research on it now you've helped me out and I can see what you mean about it being an EP in the 60's. Got a quiz arranged for some mates next week so I'll need to slightly reword one of my questions now, lol Thanks again buddy
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Post by mrmustard on Aug 19, 2010 20:51:19 GMT
Why don't you submit your quiz to the forum?
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Post by The End on Aug 19, 2010 22:17:33 GMT
Oh yeah, great idea
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Post by stellaartios1366 on Aug 21, 2010 21:31:34 GMT
Me and my mates sometimes make up quick and easy quizzes or party games for when we get together. We’re heading down to Liverpool next week so I’ve put together a 20 question quiz mainly about Liverpool, only 5 questions in there about the Beatles.
I imagine the questions would be far too simple for some of the members on here but I’ll keep it in mind incase I make up a better quiz in the future.
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Post by The End on Aug 21, 2010 23:04:58 GMT
Nah, post it here anyway
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Post by hmmmmm on Aug 23, 2011 20:13:22 GMT
A bit late, but what Wiki fails to include is the Oldies But Goldies LP. Though disapproved of by The Beatles themselves, it was always included as part of their discography. So 13 is the official figure.
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Post by mrmustard on Aug 23, 2011 22:49:52 GMT
Oldies but Goldies is not an official studio album release - it's purely a compilation that was put out to cash in on Christmas 1966. There were no new tracks on the album except for Bad Boy in the UK but this had already been released in the US.
If it was an official studio album it would have been put in the mono and stereo remasters. Wiki is correct on this occasion.
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Post by hmmmmm on Aug 24, 2011 0:56:47 GMT
There were no new tracks on the album except for Bad Boy in the UK but this had already been released in the US. A pedant therefore argues that on that premise , the British, A Hard Day's Night album would not be classified as a studio album, the tracks having already appeared on A Hard Day's Night OST and Something New in the US, prior to the British release. As to whether or not it was included in the remasters series is not proof, seeing they included MMT, by your own definition in a previous post, not to be included in the Beatles British releases.
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Post by mrmustard on Aug 24, 2011 5:43:21 GMT
There were no new tracks on the album except for Bad Boy in the UK but this had already been released in the US. A pedant therefore argues that on that premise , the British, A Hard Day's Night album would not be classified as a studio album, the tracks having already appeared on A Hard Day's Night OST and Something New in the US, prior to the British release. As to whether or not it was included in the remasters series is not proof, seeing they included MMT, by your own definition in a previous post, not to be included in the Beatles British releases. The point is, oldies but Goldies is a compilation/best of if you like which are never considered official studio releases by any artist. As you said The Beatles disapproved of it's release because they saw it as EMI cashing in. A Hard Days Night is not a compilation album. Tracks were merely used in advance in the US prior to release in the UK. Other than just stating the fact you have not actually justified why you think Oldies but Goldies Should be classed as an official studio release as clearly The Beatles, EMI and the rest of the World didn't and still don't.
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Post by philbeatlefan on Aug 24, 2011 8:19:46 GMT
A bit late, but what Wiki fails to include is the Oldies But Goldies LP. Though disapproved of by The Beatles themselves, it was always included as part of their discography. So 13 is the official figure. Hi I would also say that Oldies but Goldies is a compilation. But i think what you mean is that there were 13 Uk Releases on the Label and the rest were unofficial imports. Many of The Beatles fans know more about The Beatles than wikipedia does, it's just many people see wikipedia as the gospel truth and in many cases it is not. Phil
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Post by hmmmmm on Aug 24, 2011 13:16:45 GMT
The point is, oldies but Goldies is a compilation/best of if you like which are never considered official studio releases by any artist. As you said The Beatles disapproved of it's release because they saw it as EMI cashing in. A Hard Days Night is not a compilation album. Tracks were merely used in advance in the US prior to release in the UK. Other than just stating the fact you have not actually justified why you think Oldies but Goldies Should be classed as an official studio release as clearly The Beatles, EMI and the rest of the World didn't and still don't. I'm not denying any of that that. As to whether or not the Beatles apprroved, I can't remember them turning down the royalties on the sales in protest, can you? If you think I was serious with AHDN, check out the wink in the post. I don't think I've classified it as a studio release, I do include it as part of their official releases during the lifetime of the group, and to the ordinary Joe who bought records in the 60's, an album was an album, was an album and not concerned with defining everything to the point of being anal about it. I admit to being at fault by not being clear in my first post, but the OP's query was about 12, or 13 albums, and Oldies but Goldies is that missing link,the rest is just semantics.
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Post by The End on Aug 24, 2011 13:36:52 GMT
To be honest, I'd personally always classed "Olidies" as an official release since it was released while The Beatles were still an entity (i.e not a compilation in the sense of the Red, Blue or Rock 'n' Roll etc albums) . So yep, 12 studio albums and a compilation.
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Post by mrmustard on Aug 24, 2011 14:34:07 GMT
The thread is about 'studio' albums. Of course it's an official release because it was released by parlophone/emi. However to call it the 13th official album release is still incorrect in my view. By your reckoning, Hmmmm, the Hey Jude album is also an official release as it was released prior to Let It Be. Do we now draw the line at 14???
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Post by hmmmmm on Aug 24, 2011 14:49:09 GMT
The thread is about 'studio' albums. Of course it's an official release because it was released by parlophone/emi. However to call it the 13th official album release is still incorrect in my view. By your reckoning, Hmmmm, the Hey Jude album is also an official release as it was released prior to Let It Be. Do we now draw the line at 14??? The thread is about the difference in numbers, and why that is. The Hey Jude album wasn't released before Let It Be in the UK, it may have been available as an import but not an official EMI release. I suggest you read a post before replying with all guns blazing.
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Post by mrmustard on Aug 24, 2011 15:28:51 GMT
The thread is about 'studio' albums. Of course it's an official release because it was released by parlophone/emi. However to call it the 13th official album release is still incorrect in my view. By your reckoning, Hmmmm, the Hey Jude album is also an official release as it was released prior to Let It Be. Do we now draw the line at 14??? The thread is about the difference in numbers, and why that is. The Hey Jude album wasn't released before Let It Be in the UK, it may have been available as an import but not an official EMI release. I suggest you read a post before replying with all guns blazing. I should not have to make concessions for your inability to be able to read properly but you are typing into a thread called 'studio releases'. I think it's you who needs to get a better understanding of the topic in hand. Yes, I know Hey Jude was only released in the states BEFORE Let It Be and available for export to the uk.
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Post by Amadeus on Jan 24, 2012 2:24:30 GMT
A studio album is one that The Beatles went into the studio to work on as their new album. They didn't go into the studio to re-record Golden Oldies as a new album. It's a summary of what already happened. The same with Hey Jude. It's a compilation of songs that (for the most part) weren't on albums in the U.S.. and EMI America, as usual decided to stretch yet another album out of singles tracks and the odd album track.
Having grown up on this side of the world (The New World), I originally experienced the Capitol Beatles albums and because Capitol ALWAYS made sure that all the singles tracks were on albums, they were able to create MORE Beatles albums then the Beatles actually prepared.
I don't know why I said that.
Anyway, I never include Golden Oldies in the discography because it wasn't a new Beatles album.
Here's a thought. When you look at the Rolling Stones discography, the comps are usually listed too and the fact is that they probably have more comps than actual official albums.
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