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Post by Mr Kite on Jan 27, 2012 22:26:31 GMT
Power Station , Prog. BeatlesForever ? Sad News I guess everyone who has been on this thread has heard Alans Pyschedelic Breakfast By Floyd Sadly Alan Stiles who appears on the track died last month.
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Post by Mr Kite on Feb 4, 2012 15:56:39 GMT
Prog News.Ian Anderson is releasing a follow up to Thick As A Brick ! on 2nd April . Thick As A Brick 2 ! Mr Anderson is probably the last person in Prog rock to cash in on a classic album . Anyway, you call it until you`ve heard it comes into my head. I am not all that keen on the first one really side 2 (track 2) is a bit of a let down Here have a read . ultimateclassicrock.com/ian-anderson-thick-as-a-brick-two/
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Post by Mr Kite on Feb 11, 2012 18:57:49 GMT
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Post by Amadeus on Feb 14, 2012 2:12:41 GMT
It simply NOT Yes without Benoit!
No Ben-wa, No YES!
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Post by mrmustard on Feb 14, 2012 10:46:36 GMT
It simply NOT Yes without Benoit! No Ben-wa, No YES! You're just winding us up aren't you Amadeus? Yes at the moment are essentially a tribute band. I'm looking forward to the Anderson, Rabin, Wakeman, Bruford and Levin project that will surely happen this year.
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Post by Amadeus on Feb 14, 2012 13:09:20 GMT
It's simply NOT yes without Igor Khoroshev.
No Igor, No YES!
It's not really a tribute band if they release new material. Drama was a YES album and 90125 was a YES album. And by two completely different groups. Even if the stubborn ones don't count Drama, 90125 and Tormato were by two completely different groups. But one could make the argument that they became a tribute band when Trevor Rabin left.
Yes should've ended in 1980 but through an accident of personnel and record company pressure, YES was re-invented in the '80s. And because they continued through all sorts of changes (although around the core of Howe, Squire and White), In my opinion, "Fly From Here" YES is just as legitimate as "Time And A Word" YES. Drastic lineup changes are seemingly the rule and it changes the sound and feel, especially since Rabin "replaced" Howe, even more so than Horn and Downes replacing Anderson and Wakeman.
In conclusion, because YES continued on after "Drama", anyone is replaceable. Any lineup change is legit. Jon Anderson QUIT the band more than once and Wakeman has quit more times than I've had hot breakfasts. Will Anderson be the lead vocalist again someday? I think it's inevitable. Will Wakeman come back? I'm not so sure. But you gotta figure that their "rock star world touring days" are numbered and, because of age, will have to go at a pace more to Anderson's liking and if the band ever quits, it will probably be with Anderson at the mic. I don't know about which keyboardist though.
P.S. I don't think the Anderson/Wakeman/Rabin/Bruford/Levin thing is going to happen. The last I heard, was the idea had gone cold and I don't believe that Bruford is interested. I think he's afraid that every time he joins a band with some of those guys, it turns into YES which he really doesn't want.
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Post by mrmustard on Feb 14, 2012 13:40:38 GMT
I was over exaggerating the tribute band comment but when you use a singer from a Yes tribute band then it's on the way there.
I think there is a difference with this situation and the 80's Yes. Yes in the early 80's had basically split leaving white and Squire to do their Cinema thing and basically started again from scratch. Today we have a complete Yes whose members couldn't be bothered to wait 6 months for their singer to get better. And I mean 6 months if that. I saw Anderson on a solo tour a few months after his illness and he was in great voice. So why coundn't they wait?
It's hard to see Anderson play with Yes again until he has proved a point with other musicians. The current Yes line up would be sick if he got a project together with Rabin, Wakeman et al. There is material apparently written already. Then and only then I think Anderson may rejoin the classic Yes line up.
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Post by Amadeus on Feb 14, 2012 17:39:54 GMT
True, true Mean Mr. Mustard, truly true. BTW, I could go on about YES for hours. The YES story could've taken a drastically different turn based on a Steve Howe comment: " Come the beginning of 1981, nobody was really sure of the destiny of YES. We had a meeting and the egg sort of cracked on the floor and it ended up that really only Geoff and I were sitting there, saying "Well, I think I'm still in YES. I haven't left. I haven't been fired or axed by anybody." So that's what happened. Geoff and I sort of felt, "Well can we carry on as YES?".... So my speculation was that Cinema could've stayed Cinema and Asia could've been the new YES because maybe Anderson would've opted to come back to YES instead of joining Cinema. So imagine YES with John Anderson, Steve Howe, Carl Palmer, Geoff Downes and John Wetton. There's a big lineup change for you. And the YES name would've belonged to Anderson and Howe rather than Squire's bands. Carl Palmer, Geoff Downes and John Wetton would've eventually left the band like they left ASIA (Except for Downes) which could've left the door open for the possible return of Wakeman. And Bruford might've come along with his band mate Tony Levin, because Bill couldn't really stand Squire's tardiness and be-labouring the point over ONE NOTE for hours and hours and hours. So by the Dawn of the '90s. YES would be Anderson, Bruford, Howe, Levin and Wakeman.I've got even stranger theories you know...
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Post by Mr Kite on Feb 14, 2012 22:01:41 GMT
A very thoughtful point there Amadeus . All musicians mentioned are all great musicians and worthy of a place in Yes history . But for me Jon Anderson is Yes . From Yes To Tormato he made the band one of the best rock bands ever . Drama was a good album but not a Yes album . Jon Anderson`s song writing is out there Cosmic , beautiful, mystic and not a bad voice either . Yes are a great band Yes with Jon and a band that walk with the prog of the gods .
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Post by Mr Kite on Mar 7, 2012 20:52:32 GMT
The new The Wall Exsperience CD is out and it has unreleased demo`s . I will be buying it on Saturday Here is Mother demo .
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Post by Amadeus on Mar 8, 2012 1:04:01 GMT
Where did you get the money? Is there marbles and laundry in it like the other box sets? I mean the "Immersion" sets. I have most of the stuff on bootlegs anyhow and I have to spend money on food and internet time!
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Post by Mr Kite on Mar 10, 2012 14:54:53 GMT
No , not that one . Money ! It was my birthday a few week ago and I have been hanging on to it ( I was 50 , and nobody cared ( except Mr Musty ) The 3 CD One . 19 quid in H.M.V. Which I have now got and playing at the mo . Great Demo`s How mad is this demo of One Of My Turns . (Exterminate !)
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Post by Amadeus on Mar 10, 2012 20:18:54 GMT
It's very MAD! Good set then?
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Post by Mr Kite on Mar 11, 2012 20:06:14 GMT
There is 27 demos on it . Even though it is the 3rd time I have bought the damn thing it is well worth it .
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Post by Amadeus on Mar 12, 2012 20:42:23 GMT
...continued from over here: beatleforum.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=different&thread=3723&page=5OK! My favorite YES album has Jon Anderson on it but that might be because there aren't enough non Anderson albums to chose from. And you can also be bleedin' sure that my favorite isn't one of the 9 Anderson albums after 1980.As far as DRAMA lacking Jon's writing on it,,, 90125 has none of Jon's writing on it either except for a couple of lines here and there. That album was Rabin's baby. TALK had mainly Jon/Trevor songs on it. His input is strong (according to Trevor) on that one, but it doesn't sound any more "YES" than DRAMA compared to the " golden years". ABWH had the same amount, or more of Jon on it than TALK and it sounds more of a YES album than TALK does. So JUST who is YES? Is it Jon Anderson? Is it Chris Squire? Is it Steve Howe? Is it Trevor Rabin? We all know it isn't The Buggles or Benoit. Is ABWH more of a YES album than TALK? Is 90125 more of a YES album than Drama? Here's an interesting comment from Steve Howe: " Well of course I've heard it....I listened to [Talk] and found it very uncharacteristic to me. The approach wasn't very Yessish. In most respects it's a good record, except to the point of being a YES record. It doesn't seem to be a YES record." (1994) Trevor Rabin: " I've read what Steve has to say about TALK and I find it very presumptuous of him to make these comments. He has a different way of listening to things as opposed to the people who might have enjoyed the album. Very often when I feel we have acheived something good like 90125-Steve doesn't say it isn't good, he'll say it isn't Yessish. The original design and flavour of YES was not me, it was Steve even more so than Peter Banks. I'm one of the first to acknowledge that Steve's writing was an important aspect of what YES used to do. But after being with the band for 13 years I feel that YES became something else, not just because of me but the whole character of it has changed. I don't think that [what he said] is only a slight on me, I think it's a slight on everyone. It sounds like he's saying, 'without me there can't be anything that remotely resembles YES.' So I don't feel it is appropriate to say that it's not Yessish, but by all means say, 'It doesn't sound like the YES I used to play in'.Perpetual Change is the nature of YES since 1970.
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Post by Mr Kite on Mar 13, 2012 18:29:53 GMT
I must admit , Well I hav`nt really played it that much , but I am not very fond of Talk . Saying that I do not dissmiss it a not being a Yes album as it has Jon on it . Even the magical elf has made one or two poor tunes . I have to say Amadeus you are the most dedicated Yes Fan I`ve never met . So then . You still hav`nt answered my questions . Fav and least Fav ?
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Post by Amadeus on Mar 13, 2012 19:56:28 GMT
My answer is not very concise. Fragile has a special place in my heart because it's the first YES album I ever heard. Tales From Topographic Oceans is also there because it''s the 1st YES album I purchased. Close To The Edge is special too simply because it's their best album ever.
My favorite song is "Awaken". Everything else from the '70s I love too, but those are my main picks.
Worst YES album ever? OPEN YOUR EYES. Big Generator isn't terrible but I don't give it much air time.
Favorite solo albums? The Steve Howe Album (1979) Fish Out Of Water (1975) Olias Of Sunhillow (1976)
Wakeman is a bit over the top on his own, but I do have the BIG THREE King Arthur, Six Wives and Centre Of the Earth
I know that you're going to point out to me that they're all 1970s albums and all have Jon on them. Well, I don't care! I'm Beautiful!
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Post by Mr Kite on Mar 13, 2012 22:08:27 GMT
I know that you're going to point out to me that they're all 1970s albums and all have Jon on them. Well, I don't care! I'm Beautiful! That`s a shocker ! Well I have to say that you are honest and I don`t know about the beautiful bit ( I will have to ask Mr`s A about that ) My Fav is a split vote Going For The One / Fragile / Close To The Edge . All 70`s , all have Jon on them Worst . Drama . With Jon on Big Generator Fav song . You And I . followed closely by Long Distance Runaround / Awaken Have I mentioned Here is my signed program and Cd Just missing Ivor on program We waited an hour for the band and they all came out to sign auto`s barring him. Best moment Shaking Jons hand I managed to get him to sign my program and cd cover It`s just a J but hey ! it`s Jon. Steve Howe .
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Post by Amadeus on Mar 14, 2012 2:27:31 GMT
Oh pul-leese. You can't tell me that Open Your Eyes is a better album than Drama or Big Generator for that matter. The only proof I have that I met YES is my '04 pass. The 'classic' lineup. Steve didn't even show. Chris was busy being popular. Alan was looking beyond me for people that he might know and Jon was there for 23 seconds with a tight entourage and a " more cosmic than thou" air about him. Now Rick Wakeman was a class act. He was worth the effort. My pass stuck on the side of one of my guitar amps.
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Post by Mr Kite on Mar 14, 2012 18:27:56 GMT
I am ! I have all Yes`s albums except one ... Drama . Have you heard The Remix`s album . It`s not bad . Nice pass I saw Yes in Liverpool on that tour . Check this out . And it has some nice Kitty`s in it . Good init .
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